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Nikki-Napo  
#1 Posted : 20 November 2012 13:09:28(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Hi

I was wondering if someone could give me some advice.

I've been tasked with helping out with a firm's health surveillance. They're a micro firm of 9 employees.

They use various machines in their workshop, but a lot of their work is conducted off site (installers) which means that they use a lot of handheld tools such as angle grinders.


They're aware of these hazards and have measures in place to limit any damage, but they don't have a health surveillance programme (budget restraints). No noise assessments have been conducted (as far as I'm aware).

If my understanding of the regs is correct, then they would need to implement a system of health surveillance.

Ron Hunter  
#2 Posted : 20 November 2012 13:38:00(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Without Risk Assessment (i.e. a consideration of action levels), I can't see how you can take occ.health surveillance forward. HAVS may be another risk.
Nikki-Napo  
#3 Posted : 20 November 2012 14:22:29(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

ron hunter wrote:
Without Risk Assessment (i.e. a consideration of action levels), I can't see how you can take occ.health surveillance forward. HAVS may be another risk.


They've identified the risks, and take measures to deal with those risks, but I personally haven't seen a written risk assessment, and you're right, of course.

They've been tasked with giving evidence of their health surveillance, and I've been asked to come up with suggestions that don't involve audiograms (for noise) and occupational health professionals (for their other areas already identified, including HAVS) and I'm at a loss as to what to suggest here.

I'm after some suggestions for simple health surveillance that they could implement, as all I can see from the regs involves audiograms and occupational health professionals for the other issues. (Budget restraints again), so I was wondering if anyone had any simple but effective low cost alternatives.
Clairel  
#4 Posted : 20 November 2012 16:54:50(UTC)
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Clairel

They only need to do health suveillance if they are exceeding the exposure limits. A noise assessment per se would not give you that information either, only a noise survey would give you accurate information on what levels of noise they are exposed to. But as they work off site (and therefore in variable environments) that is nigh on impossible to achieve.

Jake  
#5 Posted : 20 November 2012 17:30:38(UTC)
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Jake

Personal noise doesmeters could be used in a noise assessment that could work for off-site personal (appreciate this is straying away from the health surveillance you mention).

A quick search suggests there are easily portable units with decent battery life e.g:

http://www.cirrusresearc...sebadge-noise-dosemeter/

Not sure how much it would cost though!
Clairel  
#6 Posted : 20 November 2012 17:39:16(UTC)
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Clairel

Jake wrote:
Personal noise doesmeters could be used in a noise assessment that could work for off-site personal (appreciate this is straying away from the health surveillance you mention).

A quick search suggests there are easily portable units with decent battery life e.g:

http://www.cirrusresearc...sebadge-noise-dosemeter/

Not sure how much it would cost though!


But may be ineffective when the site changes as accoustics etc affect noise as well as the fact that duration etc may change per job. And by the time you've determined whether limits are exceeeded you'll be onto the next job!
harrisn  
#7 Posted : 20 November 2012 17:40:16(UTC)
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harrisn

Clairel wrote:
... noise survey ... But as they work off site (and therefore in variable environments) that is nigh on impossible to achieve.



Not necessarily - there are a number of electronic personal noise dosimeters available (e.g. Casella, 3M) which could be used for a survey, if a preliminary risk assessment indicates a survey is required to provide further information on likelihood of significant exposure. Given the restricted budgetary circumstances, you may be able to rent these.

However, you could also consider a review of the nature of different types of work in the field and likelihood of significant exposure.
smitch  
#8 Posted : 21 November 2012 10:11:24(UTC)
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smitch

As Ron has stated; without conducting an assessment/survey then you will not know whether health surveillance is necessary.

If noise levels vary by a great deal on a daily basis, then it may be necessary to use dosebadges and get a weekly exposure value; but take note of the peak values as well. Then base your findings/recommendations on that.

Even in relation to people who work in the same environment every day, then their daily exposure may well vary; people move around and may spend slightly longer closer to a source of noise for varying periods each day. So noise surveys have to use an average to some degree, getting tied down with exact daily exposure values is pointless and near on impossible, (as they will undoubtedly vary from day to day). You may well therefore have to base your findings/recommendations on an average or even worst case scenario.
Nikki-Napo  
#9 Posted : 21 November 2012 10:33:44(UTC)
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Nikki-Napo

Good morning

Thanks for helping me out here, I really appreciate it.

With regard to HAVS, I've suggested they conduct their initial health surveillance by using the health questionnaires on HSE website. As this wouldn't incur any costs for them, I'm hoping that this suggestion will at least be a viable option.
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