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BuzzLightyear  
#1 Posted : 30 November 2012 09:26:18(UTC)
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BuzzLightyear

I saw an article in the Guardian this morning about the Science Media Centre and their 10 point guidelines that were presented to the Leveson Enquiry. These guidelines are aimed at news rooms to ensure stories are balance and accurate.

I was wondering if IOSH could come up with a similar list for Health and Safety reporting. I'm sure it would be largely ignored but at least it might help a bit.

Here is the link to the article; http://www.guardian.co.u...nce-coverage?INTCMP=SRCH

Here are a couple of examples from the guidelines; point 1, report the source of the story with enough information so readers can look it up on a web link where possible, point 10, the headline should not mislead the reader about the story's contents.

Perhaps IOSH forum members could post suggestions. Here's one for starters:

-"If the story is about something that was banned, obtain a quote from the person or organisation that banned the activity taking place. The explanation must go into more detail than labelling it as health and safety"

Tomkins26432  
#2 Posted : 30 November 2012 09:33:43(UTC)
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Tomkins26432

How about:
Ensure the decision, or action, they are reporting on resulted from a risk assessment (i.e H&S) rather than a financial assessment (i.e cost of insurance)
damelcfc  
#3 Posted : 30 November 2012 10:08:02(UTC)
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damelcfc

Or at the very very very least distinguish if the story is HEALTH or SAFETY.

Over 90% of the time a story will be 'Health & Safety' and it never is - it's one or the other.
jwk  
#4 Posted : 30 November 2012 10:22:10(UTC)
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jwk

It's a nice idea, but I can't see our newspapers buying it. They (some of them anyway) don't like H&S because their owners don't, and unless that changes we're stuck with bad press,

John
KieranD  
#5 Posted : 30 November 2012 10:35:53(UTC)
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KieranD

Constructive suggestion, and

1. Before the IOSH support such guidelines, it's advisable to apply them thoughtfully to the content of monthly professional magazine in the occupational safety and health field, e.g. SHP, Health and Safety at Work whose reporting and editorials too often fall far short of the objectivity and standard of evidence advocated in these guidelines.

2. The website of the Royal Institution offers better examples than The Guardian of applications of these guidelines to material written for the public: they can afford to do so because they don't have to rely on sales of advertising and on purchases by individual buyers.
BuzzLightyear  
#6 Posted : 30 November 2012 11:49:01(UTC)
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BuzzLightyear

jwk wrote:
It's a nice idea, but I can't see our newspapers buying it. They (some of them anyway) don't like H&S because their owners don't, and unless that changes we're stuck with bad press,

John


I agree with you jwk but it doesn't hurt to try to do something proactive about this issue even if it only has a tiny impact on the more respectable newspapers/journalists.

Having a standard list would also be quite handy for complaint letters from IOSH members or the mythbusters challenge panel.
BuzzLightyear  
#7 Posted : 30 November 2012 11:50:15(UTC)
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BuzzLightyear

Liking all the posts so far by the way!
jwk  
#8 Posted : 30 November 2012 11:52:01(UTC)
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jwk

Buzz, I guess you're right, it's better to do something than nothing. I think I'm feeling even more jaded about the media than usual after the various attempts by govt to dodge Leveson,

John
Canopener  
#9 Posted : 30 November 2012 12:18:53(UTC)
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Canopener

Balanced and accurate!!!!!!!

Errrrrrr, there goes the vast majority of the DM elf and safety 'storoes' then :-)
BuzzLightyear  
#10 Posted : 03 December 2012 15:17:08(UTC)
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BuzzLightyear

OK, so it seems that we have three points for decent journalists reporting on health and safety stories so far:

1, If the story is about something that was banned, obtain a quote from the person or organisation that banned the activity taking place. The explanation must go into more detail than labelling it as health and safety.

2, Ensure the decision, or action, you are reporting on resulted from a risk assessment (i.e H&S) rather than a financial assessment (i.e cost of insurance).

3, At the very least, distinguish if the story is HEALTH or SAFETY

All we need now is another 7 to make this a 10 point guidance document. So more suggestions please!
MrsBlue  
#11 Posted : 03 December 2012 15:40:18(UTC)
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4. Tell the truth
5. Tell the truth
6. Tell the truth
7. Tell the truth
8. Tell the truth
9. Tell the truth
10. Tell the truth

Most newspaper stories include the opinion of the jounalist. I just want the story and to be able to make my own judgement. I don't want the jounalists sensational, salacious opinion.

Journalists who succumb to liberally reporting a situation without regard to the truth should be forced to retract in writing along the lines of:

"I TELL LIES" (as in Harry Potter) and be marked for life.

Rich

User is suspended until 03/02/2041 16:40:57(UTC) Ian.Blenkharn  
#12 Posted : 03 December 2012 16:41:37(UTC)
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Ian.Blenkharn

This is a public forum. If the press needed guidance, they could simply ask here.

I wonder just how good would be the quality of answers offered?
KieranD  
#13 Posted : 04 December 2012 13:44:43(UTC)
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KieranD

It's a credit to The Guardian to see a report on page 11 of today's (4.12.12) issue that goes a long way to fulfil its own guidelines.

Under a heading 'Starbucks to slash range of workers' benefits', right across the page, it devotes almost a third of the page to the story.

Regrettably it fails to refer to relevant safety law in relation to reported 'removal of paid 30-minute lunch breaks and paid sick leave for the first day of illness'. Can this be legit in relation to the Welfare at Work Regs?

From Starbucks standpoint, it illustrates a sad lesson in failure to communicate with the public as well as employees, even if the policy changes are justifiable.

Also quite an interesting indication of how a health/safety story can come in undeclared clothing.
BuzzLightyear  
#14 Posted : 04 December 2012 18:11:22(UTC)
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BuzzLightyear

I agree with the sentiments of posts #11 and #12 but I am trying to come up with something a bit more specific and usable.

I haven't seen the article you mentioned Kieran. Will look later on my ipod touch guardian app.

Maybe this provides a fourth point for the list then:

4, When describing a health and safety decision, try to find out what piece of legislation or official guidance is being used to justify the decision. Furthermore, seek comment from a health and safety specialist (at least CMIOSH level) as to whether they think this is a responsible interpretation.

By the way, did you mean to say 'Working Time Regulations' in your post Keiran - rather than Welfare at Work Regs? The Working time regulations requirement that comes to mind is the one about having to have a minimum 20 minute break after 6 hours of working. May be this is for employees working less than 6 hours?


KieranD  
#15 Posted : 04 December 2012 19:21:18(UTC)
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KieranD

I'm not really sure what regulations apply in the situation described.

The outline is also ambiguous in relation to apparent unilateral imposition of change in numerous terms of the contract of employment.

So, the more general prescription not only applies to guidelines on citing specific H & S regulations but also identifying particular employment laws which in this case may concern part-time and agency 'workers' as well as or instead of full-time permanent 'employees'
Canopener  
#16 Posted : 04 December 2012 19:42:55(UTC)
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Canopener

But of course, the entitlement (unpaid) for 'young' workers (many of whom may well be employed in these kind of positions) IS 30 minutes if shift is > 4:30.
BuzzLightyear  
#17 Posted : 06 December 2012 13:31:32(UTC)
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BuzzLightyear

Before this thread dies off completely, I have had a go at drafting something. So here is the proposed 10 point code of conduct for responsible journalists reporting health and safety stories. Any help in refining it would be greatly appreciated:


1. If the story is about something that was banned, obtain a quote from the person or organisation that banned the activity taking place. The explanation must go into more detail than labelling it as health and safety.

2. Ensure the decision, you are reporting on resulted from a health and safety risk assessment rather than a financial assessment.

3. At the very least, distinguish if the story is HEALTH or SAFETY.

4. When describing a health and safety decision, try to find out what piece of legislation or official guidance is being used to justify the decision.

5. Seek comment from a health and safety specialist (at least CMIOSH level) as to whether they think this is a responsible interpretation. If in doubt that the decision a sensible one, contact the HSE Myth Busters challenge panel.

6. Make sure the headline does not mislead.

7. When presenting personalised stories of people who are upset about a restrictive health and safety decision, try to balance this with personalised stories from people who have suffered when such restrictions have not been applied

8. Present reliable statistics and evidence around the particular hazard being discussed.

9. Obtain a comment from the appropriate authority. (For example, for workplace safety issues, contact the HSE, for food hygiene issues and places of entertainment, contact the local authority.

10. While your story should be interesting and captivating to the reader, be careful that any mocking or ridiculing does not insight behaviour that could result in additional injuries or suffering.
Graham Bullough  
#18 Posted : 06 December 2012 14:00:58(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

Buzz

Though your suggested code of conduct seems commendable, I wonder how many journalists, if any, would bother to read it let alone heed it. The basis for my cynical view is that journalists are paid simply to produce stories (note the word stories...akin to tales and fables!) which their editors think readers/viewers will find interesting. There's surely no obligation for journalists to bother about accuracy or honesty provided that their stories don't blatantly leave them and their editors open to libel. Also it's been repeatedly evident in the UK that some journalists and editors don't even worry about libel - far better to reap lots of money from selling newspapers (and especially the advertising space in them) with spicy stories and then deal later with any libel claims which arise and eventually pay up if necessary.

If only more people would be aware that whatever they see/read whether in newspapers or on screens, etc. might be biased/slanted and not necessarily accurate or truthful. This applies equally to postings on this forum, hence my repeated plea that thread listings page 1 should include a visible disclaimer!
KieranD  
#19 Posted : 06 December 2012 14:12:29(UTC)
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KieranD

Arguably, positive outcomes from both the Loftsted report (which very, very forcefully stood up for evidence-based interventions in work-related safety and health) and the Leveson report is part of a long-term education of the public in the value of valid information to the health of a democracy, including its economic strength. Compared to other EU countries that were violated by lax economic controls during the financial upheavals of 07/08, the Republic of Ireland is on the mend relatively quickly by virtue of the robustness of its democracy and of its pressures on newspaper editors to restrain from abuse. The penalties on the editor who abused the privacy of the Duchess of Cambridge illustrated this dramatically.

As the editorial in the December issue of SHP observes, the Global Reporting Initiative supports the inclusion of health and safety information as part of the drive to a sustainable society and dovetails with the main thrust of this thread. Free subscriptions to the GRI monthly newsletter can be made through its website.
User is suspended until 03/02/2041 16:40:57(UTC) Ian.Blenkharn  
#20 Posted : 06 December 2012 14:38:18(UTC)
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Ian.Blenkharn

If Mr Lightyear - through obscurity to the stars, or was that the airforce? - thinks his 10 rules, or 'commandments', should apply to the press then ponder also on their application to this blog.

Would it not cease to exist almost immediately!

NigelB  
#21 Posted : 06 December 2012 14:40:03(UTC)
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Buzz

A useful exercise and a one that should be carried forward. Kieran makes the point about what can happen if the press step on the private toes of Royalty: hopefully Leveson will lead to similar standards applying to everybody else.

If we can get to a Top Ten that provides a standard - you've got us on a roll so far - then this could be our way of helping the editors and journalists self regulate themselves. Also it makes clear that we do not oppose dubious decisions being opened up to public scrutiny but that dubious journalism is as well.

This is not the be all and end all. However it does have the potential to help IOSH - and others - challenge the system in a way that is constructive, by contrasting stories against a 'standard'.

On Graham's point millionaire editors rely on their arrogance to intimidate people into thinking individual action can be swotted away by the thousands of tonnes of printer's ink they have at their disposal, on a daily basis. Or the real position that their power lies in ignoring important information, while printing stuff in line with their personal, organisational or owner's prejudices. However a sustained campaign, over years, behind our own journalistic code can offer Branches the opportunity to expose journalistic nonsense to public scrutiny.

Thanks Buzz - let's see what can be done.

Cheers.

Nigel
KieranD  
#22 Posted : 06 December 2012 18:06:29(UTC)
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KieranD

The proposals in #10, #11 and #17 might well fit a world in which all readers were 'middle brow' with rational flashpoints. Tabloid papers by contrast target 'low brow' readers with much more emotive flashpoints

'Middle + high brow' writer-journalists like J B Priestley and George Orwell/Eric Blair had the impact they had because they wrote in styles that were accessible to 'low', 'middle' and 'high' reader groups, yet also generally managed to write in tones calculated to resonate with readers with rational flashpoints.

The literary critic and polemist Raymond Williams coined the term 'Long Revolution' to describe the changes in society required for the readerships that Priestley and Orwell cultivatd. Richard Hoggart explained the associated culture in 'Uses of Literacy', though his work needs to be updated to account for the much more pluraist multi-ethnic condition of society since he wrote.
BuzzLightyear  
#23 Posted : 07 December 2012 10:32:36(UTC)
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BuzzLightyear

Thanks Nigel B for the encouraging comments.

I just want to reiterate to other contributors to this thread that I am living in the real world - well at least some of the time. I don't expect The Daily Wail etc to suddenly start reporting health and safety stories in a constructive and responsible way.

However, using KieranD's interesting post about 'high brow', 'middle brow' and 'low brow' readers, I would hope that if journalists aimed at more middle to high brow readers are nudged in a more constructive and responsible way of reporting health and safety stories, then that might trickle down to a certain extent to journalists who target 'low-brow readers'. Probably not but worth a try.

However, I still think that having a voluntary code of practice for reporting H&S stories would be useful for framing complaints - even if it is completely ignored by journalists.

jwk  
#24 Posted : 07 December 2012 11:01:01(UTC)
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jwk

Buzz, journalists in the so-called liberal press (middle to high-brow readership) are just as prone to systematic, often unconscious distortion as those writing for a 'low-brow' audience. Don't take my word for it, just read some of the posts from MediaLens.org, which campaigns for compassion and honesty in liberal journalism. Journalists' distortions are shown to be apparent even in obviously life-and death stories such as those concerning Palestine, Iraq and so on (and no, medialens are not left-wing conspiracy theorists).

My point is that journalists like the positive examples Kieran mentions are pretty thin on the ground nowadays, most of them just peddle the corporate line, whatever that is for the particular organ they work on. If they'll produce deeply biased stories when writing about significant world events, then they'll certainly be biased when they're writing about what they see as trivia, such as H&S. Maybe the first step could be to cultivate some journalists who can be persuaded that not killing people at work is actually important,

John
Graham Bullough  
#25 Posted : 07 December 2012 11:09:48(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

If Daily Wail type newspapers changed to reporting health and safety stories in a constructive and responsible way, this would surely constitute aa gross infringement of the human rights of their readers by depriving them of the daily doses of indignation they crave and satisfy through reading stories about abominable "elf n safety" ! :-)

Also I confess to reading such papers occasionally if they happen to be available on racks for free perusal by customers in cafes, etc. It's both interesting and sad to see how articles in such papers appear to be couched and tell readers what to think. Knowledge of such articles can also be useful when opportunities arise for having discussions with such readers about real OS&H versus their misperceptions fuelled by Daily Wail type papers!
KieranD  
#26 Posted : 08 December 2012 09:10:31(UTC)
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KieranD

This thread started with the observation about 'guidelines (that) are aimed at news rooms to ensure stories are balance and accurate.'

A report taking up about 15% of page 43 of The Guardian on 8 December 2012 indicates the core practical difficulty in implementing these guidelines, even in a 'middle brow' broadsheet.

Beneath a headline, 'Tax and staff contract rows could high Starbucks' finances', Robert Booth states that 'Researchers from Manchester Business School have calculated that public anger at Starbucks' payment of just £8.6m in UK tax over the past 13 years on sales of £3.1bn adn staff disbelief this week at being told paid lunch breaks, some sick leave and maternity benefits were being axes culd result in a fall in sales of as much as 24% in the next year.' He asserts that 'The prediction (was) based on a study of the effect of reputation crises affecting more than 50 organisations...' adding a quotation from professor Gary Davies, 'Our research shows that if a company's reputation declines internally and externally at the same time, sales go down quickly'

Mr. Booth's report is not balanced by any analysis by anyone; the only supporting comments are from a critic of Starbucks, a spokesman for Uncut.

What's more the accuracy of the report is practically impossible to check by anyone who doesn't have an original copy of the MBS report. As the quotations stand, they appear to be statistical forecasts in which the range of variance in sales 'as much as 24%', might also be equally validly stated as 'as little as 14%", depending on the level of statistical significance on which the study is based and which is actually not stated by Mr. Booth. An accurate, balanced report would certainly include such vital information.

What appears to be a reasonably plausible proposal about reporting guidelines reveals how in practice, where matters are contentious, claims unsupported by evidence are presented in such a pillar of virtue as The Guardian as well as other media.
Graham Bullough  
#27 Posted : 08 December 2012 11:31:09(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

KieranD

In an earlier response I suggested that journalists deal with stories to suit whatever their bosses want to feed to readers/viewers. They're under no obligation to provide balance and/or accuracy, and this seems unlikely ever to change. Also, as the Leveson Inquiry has shown, some journalists have no qualms about how they acquire information and the adverse effects their methods can cause. There has certainly been a lot of discussion and media coverage about the Inquiry, but will it really have much effect on journalists and how they work? Whether suggested new laws get enacted or not, jounalists will surely still do what they think they can get away with to get their stories, especially exclusive scoops by which they can outmanoeuvre their rivals. Lord Justice Leveson seemed to recognise this in commenting that his inquiry was the 7th or 8th such inquiry over the past 70 years.

Those who seek balance and accuracy will find a better degree of them in professional journals such as IOSH's 'Safety & Health Practitioner' (SHP) where writers of main articles include references to other writings which contain supportive data or reasoning. However, by their nature and content, such articles will obviously only be of interest to people in IOSH plus others who happen to be involved with their specific subjects.

These are just my cynical but perhaps realistic thoughts based simply on experience over many years as a reader/viewer of what various journalists have produced. However, in case I appear to castigate all journalists, I'd better add some balance to this response by suggesting that free but responsible journalism can be invaluable. For example, it seems that the TV documentaries about asbestos at Hebdden Bridge in Yorkshire played a vital role in making people aware of the risks from asbestos and gradually bringing about
major changes in legislation and working practices.
KieranD  
#28 Posted : 08 December 2012 11:51:34(UTC)
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KieranD

Graham

As you can see, my comments explicitly referred to the opening lines of this thread in #1.

Your comments illustrate what Raymond Williams discussed in 'The Long Revolution' and Richard Hoggart in 'Uses of Literacy' over fifty years before Leveson's report and from a much larger perspective, not least for both those interested in balance and accuracy, and those less so as well as those opposed to these qualities.
RayRapp  
#29 Posted : 08 December 2012 12:39:59(UTC)
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RayRapp

In response the original comments re Guardian article, I think any such restrictions might appear to be a good idea but are most probably unworkable in practice as Keiran eloquently articulates. I find it a source of frustration that published so-called research is often vague, questionable methodology and based on not much more than anecdotal evidence. Researchers and their organisations are at fault for not ensuring their findings are credible, not the media, unless they cherry-pick certain aspects to skew the research findings.

Moving on, the media and in particular the tabloids are responding to the perception in society that 'elf and safety is OTT. Hence they are merely feeding the frenzy by publishing health and safety stories which are often untrue, exaggerated or once again based on anecdotal evidence. To suggest that journalists should check the source of the report and the facts is Utopian. Much of the news is dressed-up for titillation (will this word get past the obscenity checker?) indeed, they call it 'infotainment' I believe.

Whilst I had some reservations about a public enquiry into the phone hacking scandal and journalists activities in general, I hope that something good will come out of it in the long-term. I'm not sure explicit legislation is required - we do want a free press. I do think that a properly enforced industry Code of Conduct is the way forward. It must be transparent and with teeth in which to fine individuals and organisations who breach the Code.
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