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xactbill  
#1 Posted : 10 December 2012 17:03:37(UTC)
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xactbill

Golfers who have to use buggies to access their Course have claimed they are being discriminated against where the Course has been shut to all buggies due to unsafe ground conditions on slopes e.g. mud, snow, ice etc. Other golfers who walk or use trolleys are allowed on as shoes with spikes are deemed to give better grip.
As all buggies are banned it wouldn't appear that anyone is being discriminated against. The arguement seems logical to me, has anybody any experience in these types of situations.
Canopener  
#2 Posted : 10 December 2012 18:28:11(UTC)
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Canopener

OK, well I'll have a try. Firstly, you may be 'discriminating' but you should be aware that not all discrimination is illegal. In my experience buggies are used on courses by all manner of people (not just those with a disability, mobility problem or health reason) and for all manner of reasons (ego, swagger factor etc). In saying that it seems to me from what you have described, that you are taking a sensible approach to what I assume is a transient problem.

Others, perhaps Bob may have a different 'take'
boblewis  
#3 Posted : 10 December 2012 20:28:38(UTC)
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boblewis

So the real question is why are there no safe buggy routes? Why do they provide facilities with no method of use in poor weather? The answer thus seems to show a breach of the EA 2010.

Bob
firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 10 December 2012 21:39:27(UTC)
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firesafety101

Bob's right, it is discriminations against those who rely on their buggy to access all areas of the course.

There are golfers who are unable to walk or stand unaided and they should be considered when rules are made banning such machines.
boblewis  
#5 Posted : 10 December 2012 23:05:30(UTC)
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boblewis

Designers get it wrong again!!!!! Whats new they cannot even get accessibility and facilities right under Part M of the Building Regs for disabled even though it describes minimum techniques to meet the document.

It is time that such gross ineqalities were dealt with other than the need for an individual to take action under the EA 2010 though.

Bob
Phillips20760  
#6 Posted : 12 December 2012 07:48:56(UTC)
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Phillips20760

Crikey,

Not sure relevance to this forum but here goes....

When a golf club issues a buggy ban, this is more due to the damage a buggy can cause to the course in certain weather conditions. In frost or during periods of heavy rainfall it is quite sensible for golf clubs to enforce a buggy ban to protect the course.

That said, there are certain individuals who cannot walk around a golf course and therefore cannot be descriminated whatever the weather. For that reason, even when a buggy ban is in place, most golf clubs will allow buggies to be used by those with medical exemptions. i.e. those with general medical complaints and not just those using buggies out of laziness or for a desire to appear flashy...

If the excuse of safety is being used then I'm afraid that this is usually just as easy target to enforce a buggy ban. If a course is icy to the extent that it is unsafe for buggies, then on most occasions it will also be unsafe for pedestrians and the course will be closed completely.

Regards,
Ian
boblewis  
#7 Posted : 12 December 2012 18:24:38(UTC)
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boblewis

Ian

Yes in principle you are correct but it is often surprising how much disabled access can be improved by good landscape design. Additionally there are buggies with balloon tyres that have less ground pressure than a human foot. In fact one wheelchair designer has designed a chair such that the tyres do not even damage the Green itself. - It available both powered and manual (£9k for the powered:-)).

Bob
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