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Rob_Spindler  
#1 Posted : 20 December 2012 09:18:18(UTC)
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Rob_Spindler

I have been asked to list 3 statutory requirements of health and safety at work act.

I'm not sure if this means the titles of the sections or something else.

Does anyone have any ideas

Thanks

Rob
Jane Blunt  
#2 Posted : 20 December 2012 09:20:23(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

It rather depends who is asking, and for what purpose?
Rob_Spindler  
#3 Posted : 20 December 2012 09:24:04(UTC)
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Rob_Spindler

We run courses in welding and fabrication and it is a question for their coursework
Jane Blunt  
#4 Posted : 20 December 2012 09:26:47(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

ill defined question. I would go for the two major groups of people for which employers have duties of care, and the duties of people who have control of premises.
roshqse  
#5 Posted : 20 December 2012 09:32:32(UTC)
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roshqse

Any question where 3 people read it and give 2 or more different answers is a badly worded question.

Does it mean the requirement to provide a safe place of work, the employers requirement to take care of employees safety and the employees requirements?

Maybe??
David Bannister  
#6 Posted : 20 December 2012 09:44:31(UTC)
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David Bannister

Sections 2.2 (a),
2.2 (b)
2.2 (c),

may well answer the question, although my guess is that the examiners would want safe systems, safe use of substances and safety training.

Best advice is to ask the ones who first set the question.
damelcfc  
#7 Posted : 20 December 2012 10:13:45(UTC)
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damelcfc

I assume like David they are after 2.2 A,B,C,D or E (any 3 of the 5).
A Kurdziel  
#8 Posted : 20 December 2012 11:57:53(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Surely duties are imposed by Section 2, 3, 4, 6, 7 and 8. I suppose 9 is also a duty.
Which 3 to pick? As someone said this a poorly drafted question.
Baker30611  
#9 Posted : 20 December 2012 14:24:54(UTC)
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Baker30611

This question is typically aimed at employees to identify their duties, rather than employers. The above answers are all true for employers, but there are 3 duties for employees under sections 7 and 8:-
to take reasonable care of themselves and others who might be affected by their acts or omissions
to cooperate with the employer
not to interfere or misuse anything placed in the interests of health and safety
Mike
A Kurdziel  
#10 Posted : 20 December 2012 15:07:47(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Baker30611 wrote:
This question is typically aimed at employees to identify their duties, rather than employers. The above answers are all true for employers, but there are 3 duties for employees under sections 7 and 8:-
to take reasonable care of themselves and others who might be affected by their acts or omissions
to cooperate with the employer
not to interfere or misuse anything placed in the interests of health and safety
Mike

Why 'typically' only employees duties?

Baker30611  
#11 Posted : 20 December 2012 16:46:23(UTC)
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Baker30611

What I mean is that this type of question, asking for just 3 duties, is typically (often, frequently etc) asked of employees, rather than employers, when questioning on the HASAWA. I thought this might be what the OP was referring to rather than Employer duties.
A Kurdziel  
#12 Posted : 21 December 2012 09:44:24(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Baker30611 wrote:
What I mean is that this type of question, asking for just 3 duties, is typically (often, frequently etc) asked of employees, rather than employers, when questioning on the HASAWA. I thought this might be what the OP was referring to rather than Employer duties.

Ah mind-reading is not one of my talents
boblewis  
#13 Posted : 21 December 2012 09:56:50(UTC)
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boblewis

It is typical of poorly moderated questions developed by people without real understanding of the topic area they are setting the questions for or alternatively skills at training. It is so easy to think we have the technical skills thus we are competent to do such a simple task as set questions.

It is really the reverse side of the " I have all these qualifications so can I train for such and such?" - no mention of experience! Here the lack is the fundamental competence as a trainer not of experience of the task necessarily.

Competent practitioner does NOT necessarily equal competent trainer or examiner
A Kurdziel  
#14 Posted : 21 December 2012 10:41:15(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

boblewis wrote:
It is typical of poorly moderated questions developed by people without real understanding of the topic area they are setting the questions for or alternatively skills at training. It is so easy to think we have the technical skills thus we are competent to do such a simple task as set questions.

It is really the reverse side of the " I have all these qualifications so can I train for such and such?" - no mention of experience! Here the lack is the fundamental competence as a trainer not of experience of the task necessarily.

Competent practitioner does NOT necessarily equal competent trainer or examiner

I have in the past tried to produce a useful set of multiple choice questions to back up training. It’s hard to create a set of sensible, testing questions that establish that the training has worked. It’s not something that you can knock off over a couple of minutes. The questions need to be carefully assessed to make sure that they are not ambiguous and that they are a rigorous test of what has been learned. Now days I’d rather buy a training package with questions included. As said testing know ledge is a particular skill and sometimes you need to buy it in.
boblewis  
#15 Posted : 21 December 2012 22:30:31(UTC)
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boblewis

Exactly - competent persons know precisely how difficult these things are. It makes me shudder remembering all the bad one's I have seen over the years. Real problem is when the author does not recognise the problems.

Bob
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