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Kim Hedges  
#1 Posted : 28 February 2013 16:18:42(UTC)
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Kim Hedges

I saw this link on my facebook page about a story showing on Youtube about energy saving light bulbs that contain mercury. https://www.youtube.com/...bedded&v=x0x3rbHFwQU During the video, it says if the bulb breaks, people should evacuate the immediate site for 15 minutes to allow the toxic mercury gas to disperse, this is completely new to me.
chris42  
#2 Posted : 28 February 2013 16:58:30(UTC)
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chris42

Love the line "every encounter with mercury makes you a bit more stupid". It seems to imply you started off stupid. Then a bit later teaching infants how to safely pick up broken bulbs which have become toxic waste, with a couple of bits of card and some sticky tape. Is this real ?
teh_boy  
#3 Posted : 28 February 2013 17:00:24(UTC)
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teh_boy

How many are you smashing each day? I would never encourage the breathing of any dust, especially one from an electrical component - but was the video by any chance an alarmist american video? A sensible answer would be to seek advice from the manufacture as if you Google this you get all kinds of crazy answers :) Just avoid going any where near diesel, avoid smokers, avoid eating almost anything / being overweight, avoid drinking and definitely avoid driving and I'm sure you'll be fine! :)
Kim Hedges  
#4 Posted : 28 February 2013 17:07:46(UTC)
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Kim Hedges

hehehehe
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 28 February 2013 17:11:04(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Facebook? Youtube? The truth lies elsewhere I would suggest. That said, I'm not particularly impressed by "source" advice such as: http://www.energy-saving...y-saving-lightbulbs.html
teh_boy  
#6 Posted : 28 February 2013 17:24:20(UTC)
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teh_boy

My wife's Gran is convinced there is a government conspiracy and that 'they' can control our brains using these... maybe she's right? I've spent ages trying to buy old fashioned bulbs for her. This is all about dose - one bulb every now and then is probably very low risk. I'd still avoid breathing it in though :)
chris42  
#7 Posted : 28 February 2013 18:15:24(UTC)
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chris42

To answer you question Yes Kim get out now and stay out, not worth taking the risk. Don't take your computer as the screen could have CFL backlight and you could drop it. If you need to carry on working buy some voice recognition software and open the window before going out. You will then be able to shout at it from outside in safety.
firesafety101  
#8 Posted : 28 February 2013 21:51:27(UTC)
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firesafety101

Many many many many years ago I attended a fire in a large shopping precinct (now it would be a Mall) in Liverpool and after the fire I and others were tasked with searching the debris for smoke alarms that had fallen to the floor as a result of the fire. The reason - the detectors work by ionisation technology and contain radiation. Not much in each one, approx one millionth of a curie. We could not afford for the detectors to "fall into the wrong hands" and cause a scare.
Ron Hunter  
#9 Posted : 28 February 2013 22:11:36(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Have to wonder how much asbestos debris you kicked-up during that smoke-detector search........
NLivesey  
#10 Posted : 01 March 2013 08:24:39(UTC)
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NLivesey

Firesafety101 wrote:
Many many many many years ago I attended a fire in a large shopping precinct (now it would be a Mall) in Liverpool and after the fire I and others were tasked with searching the debris for smoke alarms that had fallen to the floor as a result of the fire. The reason - the detectors work by ionisation technology and contain radiation. Not much in each one, approx one millionth of a curie. We could not afford for the detectors to "fall into the wrong hands" and cause a scare.
FS101 - Not sure if you've ever seen/read it but take a look at 'The Radioactive Boy Scout'. Few years since I read it but essentially about a teenager in the states who used isotopes from fire alarms (amongst other things) to build a nuclear reactor in his garden shed.
Hally  
#11 Posted : 01 March 2013 10:11:21(UTC)
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Hally

teh_boy wrote:
Just avoid going any where near diesel, avoid smokers, avoid eating almost anything / being overweight, avoid drinking and definitely avoid driving and I'm sure you'll be fine! :)
I fill up my diesel company car at least 5 times a month, know plenty of people who smoke, i eat and currently well overweight (mind lost a stone in 5 weeks - shows how overweight...), like a pint or twlevety and drive. Wrong week to give up glue sniffing!
Hally  
#12 Posted : 01 March 2013 10:12:26(UTC)
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Hally

Firesafety101 wrote:
Many many many many years ago I attended a fire in a large shopping precinct (now it would be a Mall) in Liverpool and after the fire I and others were tasked with searching the debris for smoke alarms that had fallen to the floor as a result of the fire. The reason - the detectors work by ionisation technology and contain radiation. Not much in each one, approx one millionth of a curie. We could not afford for the detectors to "fall into the wrong hands" and cause a scare.
St Johns?
NickH  
#13 Posted : 01 March 2013 10:19:36(UTC)
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NickH

FS101 - Not sure if you've ever seen/read it but take a look at 'The Radioactive Boy Scout'. Few years since I read it but essentially about a teenager in the states who used isotopes from fire alarms (amongst other things) to build a nuclear reactor in his garden shed.
Is it an instructional guide? The way energy prices are going at the moment, this could be the way forward... :o) Sorry - it is Friday...
NLivesey  
#14 Posted : 01 March 2013 11:12:09(UTC)
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NLivesey

nickh wrote:
FS101 - Not sure if you've ever seen/read it but take a look at 'The Radioactive Boy Scout'. Few years since I read it but essentially about a teenager in the states who used isotopes from fire alarms (amongst other things) to build a nuclear reactor in his garden shed.
Is it an instructional guide? The way energy prices are going at the moment, this could be the way forward... :o) Sorry - it is Friday...
...could be, just make sure you're RA is suitable and sufficent. ;)
Graham Bullough  
#15 Posted : 01 March 2013 12:48:58(UTC)
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Graham Bullough

According to various website sources the average amount of mercury in a compact fluorescent light (CFL) bulb is low and somewhere between 4 and 5 mg. For comparison the amount of mercury in an ordinary fluorescent light tube is about 12 mg while that in a conventional mercury thermometer is about 500 mg. (i.e. half a gram). Furthermore, some of the websites I've perused after seeing this thread explain how CFL bulbs work and add that if an unlit CFL bulb is broken, the mercury content is NOT in vapour form. Therefore, there seems to be no basis for evacuating any room/area where a CFL bulb has been broken and waiting 15 minutes or so for the alleged mercury vapour to disperse.
peter gotch  
#16 Posted : 01 March 2013 13:13:40(UTC)
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peter gotch

But following on from Graham's point, you don't want to be taking a conventional hoover to the globule and thence vapourising it
Jeff Watt  
#17 Posted : 01 March 2013 13:24:12(UTC)
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Jeff Watt

My mum's top tip for cleaning up fine particles of glass is to use a nice fresh piece of loaf to blot the particles that the brush won't lift. Then make into a sandwich....NOOOOOO the risk the risk I take it all back.
firesafety101  
#18 Posted : 01 March 2013 13:37:49(UTC)
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firesafety101

Hally wrote:
Firesafety101 wrote:
Many many many many years ago I attended a fire in a large shopping precinct (now it would be a Mall) in Liverpool and after the fire I and others were tasked with searching the debris for smoke alarms that had fallen to the floor as a result of the fire. The reason - the detectors work by ionisation technology and contain radiation. Not much in each one, approx one millionth of a curie. We could not afford for the detectors to "fall into the wrong hands" and cause a scare.
St Johns?
Correct
Hally  
#19 Posted : 01 March 2013 13:44:58(UTC)
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Hally

Firesafety101 wrote:
Hally wrote:
Firesafety101 wrote:
Many many many many years ago I attended a fire in a large shopping precinct (now it would be a Mall) in Liverpool and after the fire I and others were tasked with searching the debris for smoke alarms that had fallen to the floor as a result of the fire. The reason - the detectors work by ionisation technology and contain radiation. Not much in each one, approx one millionth of a curie. We could not afford for the detectors to "fall into the wrong hands" and cause a scare.
St Johns?
Correct
My memory still works (was the only one i could think of), i was 8 at the time and was only a year or so after we left liverpool with my dads job.
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