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Joebaxil  
#1 Posted : 06 March 2013 07:53:56(UTC)
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Joebaxil

Hi All I am looking for some help with setting up a basic rescue team on site , I was looking to put in place 1 or 2 scaffolding guys , nominate a 1 first aid person . Does any one have any procedures template or advise that I could use to devise a site specific procedure ? Thanks J
MEden380  
#2 Posted : 06 March 2013 16:00:14(UTC)
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MEden380

Joe Rescue from what?
redken  
#3 Posted : 06 March 2013 16:12:02(UTC)
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redken

Rescue at height of course! if you search on HSE website for rescue plan you go a long way down before they mention confined space rescue. What use is one scaffolder?
Jane Blunt  
#4 Posted : 06 March 2013 16:41:06(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

I'd still ask the question rescue from what? We have a rescue plan from height that does not involve scaffolding.
Joebaxil  
#5 Posted : 06 March 2013 21:05:55(UTC)
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Joebaxil

Hi Sorry maybe did not explain , OK what we need on site is a rescue team as we have large confined spaces coming into play soon with internal / external scaffolding with multiple users. Would make sense to use scaffold guys for any possible quick response for obvious access issues if needed and first aid persons for quicker response as well , We are in deep discussion regarding the ultimate liability scenarios for and against ? But I feel relying on the time for emergency service response could possibly have negative consequences so I was just trying to find out if any one else has any thing like this in place and what are the pros & cons if any ? thanks j
Jane Blunt  
#6 Posted : 07 March 2013 07:25:58(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

Sorry Joe, it still does not really tell us much. What sort of large confined space? How do you access the confined space? What is the thing that is going to overcome people in the confined space (an important question!!) - water, grain, lack of oxygen etc? Are they going to survive this, even if they are rescued? What efforts are you making to stop the incident from happening (these should be pretty good)? Is there a risk to the rescuers and, if so, what risk? Since you will be making good efforts to stop the incident from happening, what set of circumstances/failures could cause you to need to rescue? How will you know this has happened?
HeO2  
#7 Posted : 07 March 2013 07:36:53(UTC)
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HeO2

If you start at the basics Joe, confined space aside, by virtue of its access and egress how do you recover an unconscious or immobile casualty to the ground or place of safety? Unfortunately dial 999 isn't acceptable as a mitigation measure, as they may be busy, or unable to get you the appropriate help in time. if you have special circumstances you need to make the special arrangements. It all comes down to the old " do the risk assessment, and mitigate or remove whatever drops out " phrase i'm afraid. If you get really stuck, PM me and Ill see if I can give you a bit of steer. Phil
User is suspended until 03/02/2041 16:40:57(UTC) Ian.Blenkharn  
#8 Posted : 07 March 2013 07:51:04(UTC)
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Ian.Blenkharn

HeO2 wrote:
If you get really stuck, PM me and Ill see if I can give you a bit of steer. Phil
In these circumstances, I would imagine of greater sense urgency would be expected!
HeO2  
#9 Posted : 07 March 2013 15:25:48(UTC)
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HeO2

ian.blenkharn wrote:
HeO2 wrote:
If you get really stuck, PM me and Ill see if I can give you a bit of steer. Phil
In these circumstances, I would imagine of greater sense urgency would be expected!
It should really be in place, and proven before you start, that's why I was offering some assistance to speed up the process, as I've had to do this on many projects. Phil
tenn1svet  
#10 Posted : 07 March 2013 16:01:37(UTC)
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tenn1svet

ian.blenkharn wrote:
HeO2 wrote:
If you get really stuck, PM me and Ill see if I can give you a bit of steer. Phil
In these circumstances, I would imagine of greater sense urgency would be expected!
That made me laugh! Anyway - on topic: We do a lot of water industry CS work - we're really well trained, know what we're doing, etc. BUT, when it comes to anything but the most straightforward rescue, we bring in rescue experts, with our preference being Mines Rescue (I have no connection or affiliation with MR,just had the benefit of their services). Don't have enough info here to know whether the price would be right, but although they are, of course, a commercial operation I haven't found them pushing their own services if they're not right for the job. In this case, maybe they would give prefessional advice rather than provide complete cover, if so I'd recommend it.
Joebaxil  
#11 Posted : 09 March 2013 22:44:25(UTC)
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Joebaxil

Hi All Thanks for your in put we are now implementing appropriate control measures in place j
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