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Recently it has been said to me that whilst my induction for new starters is of quality material, at 1.5 to 2 hours it is too long! Generally I start with company Safety, Environment, Quality followed with Manual handling and an other or two subject to the area the new starter would be working in. One of the presentations includes a test to ensure the subject matter has been taken in. Our company is a small manufacturer of 45 people with no major hazards present.
So the question is: 'How long do you think an induction last time wise?', I appreciate there will be varying factors subject to your sites requirements but I'm after a finger on the pulse answer ... over to you.
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It sounds a reasonable length to me. Our basic H&S, fire and m&h training together take a whole day, and that's on top of a site H&S induction,
John
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It varies a lot but more than that!
Who is it that thinks it's too long and too long for what? Is it that the new starters are bored by it or that their bosses are impatient to put them to work?
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Barrie, is this an induction for a new employee?
If so, we moved from a one hit on day one approach to a longer time span. The initial bit was kept very short (max 25 minutes) and covered the vital stuff a new starter really needs to know from day 1.
Our HR people reckoned that after 25 minutes the chances of much sticking in the mind was pretty small especially if it is on top of all the other new stuff that they are trying to assimilate.
Our approach was:
How would you know there is an emergency situation and what to do if there is.
Quick explanation of how safety works in the company.
Where to find the R.A./ SSOW.
Leave them to their line boss, who should be doing their task safety SSOW stuff anyway. Catch up with them later when they have some mental capacity spare to start taking in the detail of H&S in the company and skills such as manual handling etc.
Wouldn't work everywhere of course and many might be sucking air at the thought of its brevity but it worked well for us in a fast paced engineering environment.
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Barrie(Badger)Etter wrote:. Our company is a small manufacturer of 45 people with no major hazards present.
Seems the pertinent bit for me - I agree, on this basis too long.
Over the years I have been involved with the delivering of, organising and on the recieving end of anything from 10 minutes through to two weeks.
Horses for courses as always and different firms will deliver slightly different, for example currently the Quality Manager would do her bit, purchasing their bit, Operations their bit - I would do HS&E and so on - depends if you are talking just the HS&E bit or entire induction?
Depends if you include manual handling, food safety, coshh (actual courses) as part of the induction or as a seperate entity (where applicable).
1st day? for me, meet and great, assembly point, 1st aid/acc/near-miss, site rules - see you tomorrow.
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I agree with Pete - it's best to spread it out. This also gives you an opportunity to test whether the stuff you have told them has made it into the long-term memory.
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Hi Barry,
I'm not trying to teach you to suck eggs but have you done a needs analysis and compared it to your induction course material?
I have been on far too many inductions and training courses that are padded out with irrelevant or unnecessary material and have gone on for ever. I'm not saying yours does but it's always good teaching practice to evaluate your own practice.
I think the days of measuring the quality of a course by it's duration are long gone.
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Thanks guys for coming back.
My esteemed leader ...
Trying answer in turn, Yes new starters of various ages.
If I did safety and enviro only (basically my area) I would be dragging them back every day for something else as I know the dept managers wouldn't do it themselves. Tried it once and was told next time do them all together.
Courses no, but awareness raising yes esp. when coshh involved.
Needs analysis indirectly yes as indicated at the start.
Now another question: Has any one used the NAPO films as a main part of their induction routine? I have viewed them on line and thinking possibly purchasing a DVD of some pertinent to our company.
Badger
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The content and length of inductions will depend on the audience and the degree of risk associated with the work. I think as a general observation inductions tend to be too long and add little value.
What I really dislike in inductions are videos - a lazy means of getting round having a person present; training slides eg manual handling, W@H, etc. Inductions are not meant to provide training but to inform people of the hazards and risks associated with the working environment.
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Too much information given at induction will be lost as the person will be overwhelmed with all sorts of information. Better to do it over a period of time. Say the first month.
First day you want to know where are the loos, where you can make a cuppa, where's the fire assembly point and when you can go home!
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I'm in agreement with Ray and Claire on this one. Day one should be limited to;
"Emergency exits are here, here and here. In the event that the cabin looses pressure.....etc."
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Clairel wrote:Too much information given at induction will be lost as the person will be overwhelmed with all sorts of information. Better to do it over a period of time. Say the first month.
First day you want to know where are the loos, where you can make a cuppa, where's the fire assembly point and when you can go home!
FWIW, our 'essentials' induction on day 1 is:
1: The company has responsibilities and we recognise them
2: Employees have responsibilities too - work safely, follow instructions, report accidents
3: Fire arrangements
4: First aid arrangements
5: Accident reporting
6: Company D&A policy
7: Working hours
8: How to fill in timesheet system so you get paid
9: Company use-of-computers policy
10: Where are toilets, kitchens and the nearby sandwich shops
The rest is driven via. a checklist and a process where a nominated person is responsible for ensuring the new start gets the defined information over the course of the first month.
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