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I have today been given a Corporate Dictate to introduce mandatory Safety Glasses in all non office areas of our facility, we have previously had Safety Glasses required in some limited areas and for certain tasks. This new policy is being applied throughout the company across the world. So I don't have much option but to comply, but the announcement was greeted (as expected) with some upset from some employees.
With some stating that Safety Glasses give them a headache (the first report of such even though they have had to wear them for certain tasks for years) and some reports that people believe wearing safety glasses all the time can cause harm to their eyes.
This is the big one, and I cannot find any information to support either that they do or cannot cause harm if worn for long periods.
Any help.
Richard
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Richard Pickles wrote:I have today been given a Corporate Dictate to introduce mandatory Safety Glasses in all non office areas of our facility, we have previously had Safety Glasses required in some limited areas and for certain tasks. This new policy is being applied throughout the company across the world. So I don't have much option but to comply, but the announcement was greeted (as expected) with some upset from some employees.
With some stating that Safety Glasses give them a headache (the first report of such even though they have had to wear them for certain tasks for years) and some reports that people believe wearing safety glasses all the time can cause harm to their eyes.
This is the big one, and I cannot find any information to support either that they do or cannot cause harm if worn for long periods.
Any help.
Richard Richard, You won't find evidence of either. If you are having to introduce the policy make sure there is a substantial range for users to pick from. As far as damaging your eyes I have asked our optician (and others) and they have not seen any deteriation in eyesight other than as would be expected through age.We have had a mandatory eye protection for all production areas and workshops since 1992 The area that has seen a big difference is our Occ Health Dept which rarely have to deal with an eye accident as opposed to the large number our records indicate we dealt with before the policy was introduced.
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Hi, I worked on a shop floor for 5 years and everyone had to wear safety glasses (apart from the office staff, unless they came onto the shop floor). It didn't do anything to my eyes, except protect them from being damaged or going blind. It's not nice to wear them all day (but a lot of people where ordinary glasses), you can get some nice ones now that look quite trendy. I do remember though, as some people wear normal glasses they had to wait quite a while for prescription ones (it may be different now), for some time they had to walk round with two pairs on which wasn't nice at all ! Eyes are very precious and if they need protecting, good on the Company I say. A headache is much nicer than the loss of an eye. Mandy
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When working on a chemical plant - same policy introduced 15% drop in eye related incidents in 2 years!
There was another thread on this not that long ago - if you can get the search function to behave
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I spent years wearing safety glasses when i was in an operational role and it is pretty much standard in the oil & gas industry and i never suffered from headaches nor has my eyesight deteriorated.
Ultimately, the workforce will get used to it but i agree with John J in that you should have a few pairs available so the person can choose the one that fits them best.
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If they're clean, scratch free and (where applicable) of the appropriate prescription then there shouldn't be an issue. Has there been a monitoring program up to now in the hazard areas to confirm that this PPE is being looked after properly? You'll be aware of other potential pitfalls such as sudden changes in temperature - instant misting of lenses when walking into higher hazard areas can be problematic.
I've expressed my views on the blanket issue of PPE in the past. I'm not a fan. You'll spend more time contesting and ensuring 'global compliance' and there's an attendant risk that the focus on those actually at risk will diminish somewhat.
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We have mandatory glasses in the factory for everyone. It's been that way for years and it is, equally, years since we had an eye injury. We had the same complaints initially but I found a load of photos of eye injuries and shared them, the hubbub died down quite quickly.
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It has been common practice now on most major contractors sites for years now.You get the usual complaints to start with, cant see properly, cant read drawings with them on, mist up all the time. But when the summer comes they all want dark style. Our eye injury rate has dropped to zero since they have been implemented. Just make sure that all wear them including the managers.
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I was reluctant to roll this out as generally I don't like blanket rules nor PPE if it can be avoided.
But like Teh boy we had similar results and there is no arguing with that.
Give it a few months to bed in, as others have said they will get used to it
For the awkward squad I offer an alternative - the address of the local job centre
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Richard
My previous company had this policy and on the most part it was extremely effective and in at least 2 cases the operatives wearing of the safety glasses certainly saved their eyesight. The only reservation comes down to your workplace risk assessment and having a blanket policy covering ALL workplaces outside of offices is not in some cases a good idea. I had to introduce 'safety glasses only zone' maps in the warehouse as FLT drivers leaving the outside to come inside were blinded by condensation steaming up their glasses in the winter months (We didnt use cheap glasses either) Also they were suffering from glare from the high level lighting. I remember the arguments about headaches from the glasses well, but as already pointed out, this was only possible if the users of the glasses had not looked after them and if one lense was scratched then the other eye was obviously straining. So a PPE policy would help there.
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You can get a sore head from safety glasses.
I don't agree with the comment by Mandy "A headache is much nicer than the loss of an eye."
I get a headache with ordinary glasses and with safety glasses. I get round this by having a slight tint which takes away the glare.
A headache can lead to employees making mistakes and we should not be happy to trade one hazard for another.
Do it properly and you will get buy in. Enforce it with no flexibility and you will get resentment and then an increase in sick days for the genuine people who have eye problems.
Son Of Skywalker
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We were encouraged to have a full time glasses policy approx 2 years ago and we asked ourselves a few questions which included, Do we have an issue with eye injuries and what were the stastics over the past 5 years? We found that in fact we did not have an issue with eye injuries but decided to try it out on a few Construction projects over a period of 3 months with regular communication with both the operatives and the site teams. The findings were as suggested below that yes if clean, not scratched and cleaning stations provided they were OK. We then introduced Rain, sunlight and working in dusty, warm areas and found that actually the wearing of safety glasses just for the sake of it was more a hazard than a control measure. We have had so many positive comments off trades who come and get induected and then ask about mandatory eye protection and when we say we have a risk based approach we do actually get a sigh of relief. Mandatory eye wear breads complacency and does not encourage operatives to wear the corect levels of protection.
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Evening Richard,
Rolling out any corporate dictate is not an easy task. Consultation with the staff is more often than not the best option, and in my experience this is more successful than 'just do it'. Employees like to be included, have a say and asked for feedback on thier evaluation to assist management on the appropriate selction. In turn this aids compliance. This can be supported facts, stats & figures to justify the move. Our organisation is fortunately large enough to fund 'victim presentations' that give first hand accounts of thier loss, to some this may sound extreme, but does have an effect.
Regards Alex
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I wonder if there is any comparison incident data out there to measure increased slips, trips, lapses, near miss, error etc. due to enforced eye protection balanced against the zero eye injury rate? Or are the blinkers on in that respect?
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If management want to introduce such a policy so be it as they are the managers but insist / work hard to ensure that the policy is not introduced via a H&S tag as such blanket policies get H&S a bad name
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Ron, as a company we tried to get the use of mandatory eye protection changed to risk assessment only, we asked all the operatives to report any slips, trips, near miss or errors so that we could go to the principal contractor (PC) and have the policy changed. Not one operative reported anything. With this data, how do you defend your position of non compliance? You can not so you have to comply. All you can do is offer a fair range of glasses so that it is easier for the operatives to comply. I would prefer that it was blinkers that we were forced to wear, at least then I would be able to collate data to have them removed. As you are well aware in this climate what the PC wants then the PC gets, they pay the wages.
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Fair play stevel. On the question of how we can defend our position within this "culture", this article from Judith Hackett is relevant: http://www.hse.gov.uk/ne...segen&cr=1/11-mar-13Quote: "..............symptomatic of the wider over-application of health and safety - people presuming that something which is good and necessary in one circumstance must be good and necessary in other situations. More equals better. Except it doesn't - as I've said before, health and safety controls (such as protective clothing) should be introduced to help manage risks, not as part of unthinking, blanket policies."
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My concern is the statement that the policy is a blanket one for ALL areas other than offices does that include corridors, toilets the carpark etc? What we try to do is get people to identify the specific areas where safety glasses ( and other PPE) are required. And that any PPE is suitable for that task, so for example light weight safety glasses are not much use in a lab where staff are using acids etc. There they should be using visors etc when they are carrying out the hazardous activities. An unthinking blanket requirement just gets peoples backs up.
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I wear quite strong prescription varifocals, and have an occasional need to visit sites where eye protection is mandatory. I have had problems of distorted vision with some makes of overglasses. On one occasion this caused me to fall on a customer's stairs, since I missed the top step. No injury (except to my dignity) but could have been more serious. I tried a range of manufacturers' products at an exhibition after that, and now carry a type that doesn't give the same problem.
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Richard, what ever you do get Middle / Senior Management buy-in!
There's nothing worse than persuading the workforce to wear mandatory safety specs only to find the management team waltzing around the shop floor without them on. From that moment on your climbing up a very steep hill!
Speaking from experience.
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#17 Ron I wish it was as simple as repeating that quote with the PC. I have sat in a meeting with the Directors of my company and the Director of a PC and their safety manager and been blatantly told " Do not care what is required by legislation, that is a lower standard than we require. You want to our work you follow are rules" What chance do you have with that. Gives their safety manager what he wants and how he wants it. Start an argument with them and the work goes else where. Its all well and good Judith Hackett giving the speech, she is not the one trying to keep 50 men in work, and when its said to her well we are enforcing a higher standard, she and all the rest will pat them on the back and say well done keep up the good work.
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