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paul-ps  
#1 Posted : 14 March 2013 11:41:43(UTC)
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paul-ps

We have recently introduced a blanket policy for the wearing of safety shoes.

This policy mostly came in with few problems. Where there is an issue however, is with person's that for medical reasons, are affected by the additional weight of the footwear and this is causing them discomfort and additional concerns.

How do you manage the requirement for the wearing of safety footwear, for persons that suffer pain, swelling etc as a result?

Thanks for all assistance - Paul.
jontyjohnston  
#2 Posted : 14 March 2013 11:52:32(UTC)
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jontyjohnston

Paul

There is some very good safety that uses composite materials instead of the traditional "steel" variety.

They are significantly lighter to wear whilst offering the same protection to EN ISO 20345. We supply ones called Dominus, from Aimount. Sure there are loads of others out there.
SP900308  
#3 Posted : 14 March 2013 11:54:59(UTC)
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SP900308

Are there safety shoes available offering a lighter material than steel? That would be my first question.

Work with the person and explore all options in the market place.
SP900308  
#4 Posted : 14 March 2013 11:56:36(UTC)
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SP900308

Paul..... what Jonty wrote!
paul-ps  
#5 Posted : 14 March 2013 13:10:43(UTC)
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paul-ps

The composite and aluminium toes have been offered & they still give concerns.

Previously the operatives were free to wear what they liked, be that trainers/canvas pumps etc so its come as a major change to some.
SP900308  
#6 Posted : 14 March 2013 13:21:20(UTC)
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SP900308

Paul, PPE enforcement will always bring such issues and this is well publicised! Finding the genuine issues (religion, health) might take a while, assessing options and alternatives a bit longer. Have you an Occupational Health specialist involved?

Presumably this person can only carry out his/her function in this mandatory zone?
bob youel  
#7 Posted : 14 March 2013 14:47:39(UTC)
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bob youel

blanket instructions are usually representative of poor management styles - U should look at what is really needed and go from there -however that would require real management and that is another story
SJP  
#8 Posted : 14 March 2013 14:52:47(UTC)
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SJP

This will always be a problem when you introduce "blanket" policies. Is the area this person works in free of hazards that require safety shoes? If yes, then they are not required and this will need to be managed by making this area "a safety shoe free zone" for all employees; if they are required because the hazard cannot be removed or reduced, then consideration must be given to moving that person to a hazard free zone, or ultimately terminating their employment - how ever this would be harsh, and could lead to a claim (harrassment, unfair dismissal etc) if not handled correctly, either way it needs to be managed in a firm but fair way.
paul-ps  
#9 Posted : 15 March 2013 08:34:58(UTC)
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paul-ps

The blanket policy is necessary as operatives move around the site from hazard to non-hazard areas.

The person is recovering from a knee operation.

Kate  
#10 Posted : 15 March 2013 08:37:24(UTC)
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Kate

So it's a temporary problem. Might a period on light duties be the solution?
son of skywalker  
#11 Posted : 15 March 2013 09:14:13(UTC)
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son of skywalker

Involve Occupational Health.
damelcfc  
#12 Posted : 15 March 2013 09:33:39(UTC)
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damelcfc

Info @ #9 makes all the difference.
Manage by exception due to the circumstances/reasonable adjustments during this rehab period/involve OH.
paul-ps  
#13 Posted : 15 March 2013 09:37:10(UTC)
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paul-ps

damelcfc wrote:
Info @ #9 makes all the difference.
Manage by exception due to the circumstances/reasonable adjustments during this rehab period/involve OH.


So would you allow them not to wear safety shoes for the recovery period or just restrict their duties?
Zimmy  
#14 Posted : 17 March 2013 09:18:58(UTC)
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Zimmy

Review the RA. If it says safety shoes then that is your answer?

When I had my toe nails removed I was still obliged to wear safety shoes or stay off work until the said toes healed up. There was not enough office work to do full time so it was either the workshop or stay at home. I got myself the lightest work boots I could find and away to go. Not a lot of fun but was manageable.

I was the nutter who put the RA into place :-(
damelcfc  
#15 Posted : 18 March 2013 10:21:38(UTC)
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damelcfc

paul-ps wrote:
damelcfc wrote:
Info @ #9 makes all the difference.
Manage by exception due to the circumstances/reasonable adjustments during this rehab period/involve OH.


So would you allow them not to wear safety shoes for the recovery period or just restrict their duties?


Depends on your individual circumstances, what the R/A says and what reasonable adjustments can be offered for the time period whilst ensurung safety.
NR  
#16 Posted : 18 March 2013 10:48:22(UTC)
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NR

I’ve been through this problem with sites abroad where we had to transition local staff to wearing safety boots and socks (Don’t laugh) from having never worn shoes previously! Some thought they were gifts which they decided to sell on the local market until they realised NO boots No job!!

They liked them in the end as they equally liked the HV vests, hats, glasses, the works- they were trendy!

Probably doesn't help you.
blodwyn  
#17 Posted : 19 March 2013 12:45:50(UTC)
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blodwyn

We did this a few years ago and every excuse under the sun came out as to why people couldnt wear them. My favourite being....."they dont look nice with a crop top........"

No answer there really....
Zimmy  
#18 Posted : 19 March 2013 19:05:46(UTC)
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Zimmy

Depends on the colour of the top? Now on a Friday I would suggest ...
Juan Carlos Arias  
#19 Posted : 20 March 2013 16:34:15(UTC)
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Juan Carlos Arias

These days you can get safety footwear which are as comfortable and light as normal shoes, if not better. IMO during changes of this type you will always find resistance from a handful of people. At the end of the day if your RA says people need safety shoes, stick to your guns and make it happen. Ensure you have a good selection of safety shoes available.
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