Any one have any experience on this.

Trying to get a risk assessment from a hotel in France who appear not to understand the request. Is there a different system in France for the process of assessment to fulfill requirements to Framework Directive 89/391?

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Andrew

France has its own Ministry of Labour, who are the organisation which controls these requirements.

http://travail-emploi.go...ues,1046.html#sommaire_2

I don't know how good your French is, but mine is poor, so I right clicked and used the 'translate with Live Search' option that came up. There are, I am sure, others available.

However, translate the page and that will tell you what you need to know. Perhaps if you sent the untranslated page to the hotel, that would help them get to understand what is being requested?

good luck

Martin

I'd guess you'd get the same response from a hotel in the UK too

Just being nosey, but why do you want one?

Andrew,

risk assessments in France "évaluation des risques" are task-related. An establishement employing more then 50 (?) people can be expected to conduct an annual inventory of tasks and analyse related risks. This inventory should be made available to the "Inspecteur de Travail" should it be requested. It should be updated as required but this requirement is usually only done once a year. If ever. Members of the site's H&S committee, which includes union reps are normally involved in the process. (and it's a reallyreally fun job training them to do it right) There is no legal obligation to make the inventories available to third parties. i.e. you.

Other risks such as fire safety and emergency procedures are unlikely to be covered by this process.

Building trades are covered by separate legislation, similar to UK regs and will be more site related than to individual tasks.

I have audited and virtually lived in (some years hotel nights exceeded home nights) many French hotels. My major concerns, as a guest and as an auditor were fire prevention, evacuation procedures and routes and food hygiene, HACCP (which is very variable; some of the poshest hotels have rat droppings in kitchens and food storage areas)

My old mentor insisted that our first task, after dropping our bags, was to check out and follow the evacuation route. So I always did. I once found myself going through the lady's toilets to get out of the hotel. Some strange looks, but not many. It was in Holland.

As a general rule go for those hotels owned and run by the Accor group. Campanile is also good with every room opening onto an outside balcony but their food hygiene is not always the highest. Cheapskates go for Formule 1 which is cheap, 35 euros for up to three people in a room (it helps if you are good friends) but no food prepped or served (Well, café and croissants for breakfast and that's your lot) Toilets and showers are off the main corridor and are sterilised after each use. Don't get the door opening/closing sequence wrong or you, too, could be sterilised.

Bonnes vacances

Merv

Maybe it's worth clarifying that 'assessment of risk' (1) is different to a 'risk assessment record' (2) which no doubt creates an interpretation and implementation difference across the various European cultures and languages.

The first is a process of informed decision-making - as specified by the Directive and our own Management Regulations.

The second is a record of those findings; this was, from 1993, quickly interpreted as 'filling in a form' (in writing) in the UK, but that is by common habit, not by prescription.