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Paul Harrison  
#1 Posted : 17 April 2013 14:47:10(UTC)
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Paul Harrison

Scenario: I have just been informed that a syringe has been found in the toilet of one of our contracts (contract catering at a inner city school). The police were called and have confirmed it contained heroin. The client is now asking what we are going to do about it. Although the WC is primarily for the use of Catering Staff, it is not locked and therefore can be accessed by others, but not the general public. I have been asked by my boss (owner director) if we can drug test etc. My thoughts are initially that as we do not have a formal drug testing policy in-place, we cannot just demand tests at this site. Also I believe there has to be consent from employees in any case. Therefore my query is could we ask people to volunteer for testing? If so, does anyone have a similar experience of this? I have doubts to whether some of the staff would volunteer, but do not feel we could discipline or remove them from site on this basis alone, for the reasons above. I have to visit site on Friday and so quick responses would be appreciated. Many thanks
A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 17 April 2013 15:54:04(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

If the police think it contains heroin leave to them to investigate or if they think it’s not an issue not to investigate. You (the employer) do not have the authority to demand that employees have any sort of drug test unless they have signed up to one as part of their terms and conditions. You cannot discriminate against employees who refuse to ‘volunteer’ a drugs test either. You do not have the medical histories of your employees to hand you cannot know if they are heroin addicts or on some sort of opiate medication. It’s a can of worms. Keep out it.
ExDeeps  
#3 Posted : 17 April 2013 16:26:33(UTC)
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ExDeeps

Hi, I agree with everything A.K. has said and just add this is an HR policy issue, so unless you have an HR hat ....... As was said, it's a can of worms, and they're HR worms, Jim
Paul Harrison  
#4 Posted : 17 April 2013 16:52:03(UTC)
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Paul Harrison

Thanks chaps. I totally agree with both your comments regarding testing etc. We are going to have one-to-one interviews with staff and inform them of the find and ask them if they have seen anything suspicious etc etc. The police aren't interested.. Unfortunately the client may have other expectations. Moving forward, we may have to consider a change to contracts of employment.
User is suspended until 03/02/2041 16:40:57(UTC) Ian.Blenkharn  
#5 Posted : 17 April 2013 16:53:21(UTC)
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Ian.Blenkharn

Well, it is and it isn't. If you were a building contractor and have some drug addled gadgee wiring up the electrics or plumbing the gas central heating, and either of those goes bang, then you have a very serious safety problem. In the catering sector, think about short and not very rational tempers and lots of pans full of boiling water, not to mention all those knives. If said gadgee leaves a needle exposed and there is a sharps injury, then there is yet another safety issue. Both situations are serious, will cost you a great deal of money and the loss or reputation, certification etc may be difficult to recover. You might leave it to HR to deal with as a personnel issue, if indeed it has anything at all to do with your employees. But don't pretend that there may not no potential safety implications.
Simon Heesom  
#6 Posted : 18 April 2013 08:02:33(UTC)
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Simon Heesom

Hi All, Just been trained in Drug & Alcohol testing, for my company and contractors are not exempt. it seems to be a new fashion that some of us are going to have to wear. to put it in a nut shell, policy is the decider. If you haven't got one and you choose to go down this route, then you will need to develop it, and as Ian says it is about safety, and yes catering does have serious hazards (no food complaint jokes please). the equipment requirements are not cheap, but will be a lot cheaper than a prosecution/claim. For further information check out the web site of the organisation my company uses; http://www.screensafeuk.co.uk/ Simon
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