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CliveLowery  
#1 Posted : 28 May 2013 15:34:03(UTC)
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CliveLowery

Hi All, Quick question regarding accident costs. Scenario is a manager employed by us "Sub Contractor" was injured on a construction site as a result "IMO" as a result of the Principal Contractors failings. Can we as a Sub Contractor claim our costs such as lost time etc; against the Principal Contractor. If so how and has anyone ever done this before and won? Your thoughts and advice would be welcome. Regards Clive
David Bannister  
#2 Posted : 28 May 2013 16:30:51(UTC)
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David Bannister

You can try, but ultimately this is likely to be a commercial decision: is the upside of (possibly) winning your claim better than the downside of losing any chance of future works from the PC, coupled with the extra management costs of pursuing the claim. You may have the legal arguments well organised but take a broad overview, as your MD, FD, SalesD and OpsD will surely do.
PH2  
#3 Posted : 28 May 2013 16:33:58(UTC)
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PH2

Hi Clive, I have not had personal experience of this, but working in the construction industry I am aware that Principal Contractors take a deep aversion to being pursued by sub contractors for anything. Assuming that you notify your own insurers of the accident, they may pursue the PC's insurers for any monies that they may have to pay out, by way of compensation, employers liability claims, damages etc. That way, you / your IP can truthfully say that you are not chasing the PC. However, be prepared to be unsuccessful in bidding for sub contract work with that particular PC for a while (unfortunately). PH2
walker  
#4 Posted : 29 May 2013 08:22:08(UTC)
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walker

The PC "can do no wrong" in their own eyes subbies have always been used as scapegoats Whilst work remains short you can't pick & choose so unfortunately you have to grin and bear it.
imwaldra  
#5 Posted : 29 May 2013 11:45:06(UTC)
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imwaldra

You also need to check your contract details. For example, in the oil & gas sector (including for construction activities) it's standard practice for contracts to have clauses specifying that each party bears their own losses from an accident, regardless of who/what caused it (this is actually quite good protection for contractors & sub-contractors as otherwise they could be liable for the costs of lost/delayed production). I've no idea whether such clauses are usual in civil construction contracts.
CliveLowery  
#6 Posted : 29 May 2013 13:01:10(UTC)
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CliveLowery

All, Many thanks for your replies. Pretty much my way of thinking, I just need to try and get these points accross to our commercial department who are at present looking at claiming the cost of our manager being off work against the PC. They do not appear to see the bigger picture at the moment. regards Clive
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