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gramsay  
#1 Posted : 11 June 2013 10:43:37(UTC)
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gramsay

Has anyone experience of introducing a practical protection system to prevent tools falling from height (particularly 1000v rated ones)? When I worked in the entertainment industry we used to buy tools (spanners, pliers, screwdrivers - nothing heavy) with holes or rings on the end and use what was effectively a bungee cord with carabiners on either end, attached to yourself or the bucket of the MEWP you were in. This was years before I was involved in H&S though. I have a couple of problems - all the solutions we can find just now seem to be very expensive, and sources of 1000v rated tools with rings or eyes are proving elusive. Any experience or help is appreciated in case there's a solution I've missed. The background to this is: we have 12 vehicle-mounted elevating work platforms used to carry out Street Lighting repairs & maintenance. I'm assessing how reasonably practicable it is to do more to prevent tools falling from height. We've already sorted the hammers, it's the large selection of lighter tools I've not found anything promising for yet.
anorak  
#2 Posted : 11 June 2013 12:48:43(UTC)
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anorak

Can you elaborate on the type of tools you need the tethers for, there are various different types of tether systems you can attach to tools and then attach lanyards to.
zeb  
#3 Posted : 11 June 2013 13:13:25(UTC)
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zeb

You could perhaps use netting around the cage of the cherry pickers, and also under the work area to catch the tools? It would be easy enough to set up, and gives a decent amount of protection from tools falling at height. It's also a lot more cost effective than changing all your tools.
gramsay  
#4 Posted : 11 June 2013 14:35:05(UTC)
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gramsay

Anorak: mainly screwdrivers, pliers, spanners and similar-sized hand tools; nothing as heavy as a hammer. We've looked at a few available tether systems, all of which so far look surprisingly expensive (when you include all associated costs such as modification of existing tools, or supply of new tools with attachment points). Each technician may have a dozen or more tools, many of which need to rotate without tangling. Zeb: that's an interesting idea, and a colleague suggested it as well but she couldn't find anything suitable - have you got experience of using nets for small temporary installations? Thanks very much for both responses.
zeb  
#5 Posted : 11 June 2013 15:08:19(UTC)
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zeb

I have used it in cherry picker cages before, yes. I just used bog standard netting of the type used on site boundaries. It's cheap and easily available. I attached the netting to two broomhandles, nailed some string into one of the broomhandles and attached the other to the floor of the cage. The guys just hung the netting over the edge and attached it to whatever they could with the string and broomhandle. I also wrapped the cage with it, to make sure nothing could fall out by getting kicked out over the edge as well as dropped by hand. Pretty rough and ready, but it did the job.
paul.skyrme  
#6 Posted : 11 June 2013 22:47:26(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

Why do your operatives need insulated tools? Does your RA, MS & SSW allow live working? If not, then no need for insulated tools, as the point of work must be subject to formal safe isolation procedures prior to work. There should really be no need for 1000V insulated tools, except in very exceptional circumstances! I have come across 2 very unacceptable issues wrt this recently. First was an operative who was roasted and threatened with dismissal by a H&S manager for not using 1000V insulated tools on an electrical installation when there was no electrical supply present, as it had not been installed. OVERKILL or what! There should be no reason to require insulated tools if there is no electrical supply present. Was this "H&S" person competent? I have been told today by a H&S manager of a global blue chip automotive company that BS7671 (IEE/IET Wiring Regulations) is not relevant to their factory, that they do not have to comply with it, and that they do not have to test and inspect in accordance with BS7671 when they undertake design & physical changes to the electrical installation in the premises. Because they have the installation periodically checked every 5 years this is enough. It would be a LOT to go into the technical detail, but this is NOT so. I am very tempted to email him with my opinion and some related information & CC HSE, but this would jeopardise the company that got us the introduction with regard to their unrelated works there. However, I was flabbergasted! He even quoted an unrelated standard as being more relevant. I have at least 3-4 days work to quote him for the tasks he has requested costings for, I am very tempted to refuse to quote, because I am so astounded!!! Going to discuss with my introducer tomorrow...
KieranD  
#7 Posted : 13 June 2013 09:27:30(UTC)
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KieranD

Gavin Dom Cooper, in particular, has written numerous papers that illustrate how competently designed management of safe behaviour challenge the validity of your assertion that 'all the solutions we can find just now seem to be very expensive'. Compared to recurrent waste, are the solutions you refer really well-chosen, on the basis of all relevant scientific evidence about human behaviour?
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