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Martin50  
#1 Posted : 12 June 2013 09:52:19(UTC)
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Martin50

I have an employee who sufferes from severe arthritis. An occupational health reports confirms this. He is unable to straighten his elbow and is in pain, helped by drugs. The job role is manual handling. This involves alot of lifting, sometimes heavy weights that can't be avoided. It involves patients on stretchers and this can't be avoided. I have been asked to undertake an indivdual manual handling risk assessment. Can anyone give me any help, support, or tips how to go about this? Thanks,
A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 12 June 2013 10:43:32(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I’d have thought that this was entirely in OH’s ballpark. My suggestion would be evaluate the task not the person( leave that to OH) so you might say the task involves carrying such and such a load so far, it involves bending over, repetitions etc . it would then be for the OH/HR people to see if the person is fit for this work, which I assume is what this assessment is about.
blodwyn  
#3 Posted : 12 June 2013 11:35:25(UTC)
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blodwyn

I am amazed that on a capability matter this poor individual is still being expected to undertake this role. As AK says below it has to feature the TILE approach to assessment. Is he covered by the DDA (or whatever it si called these days) as you will be required to make reasonable adjustments.
ctd167  
#4 Posted : 12 June 2013 11:50:17(UTC)
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ctd167

We have an employee in exactly the same position (issue with muscle wastage on right forearm). The report from OH recommend he lift no more than 10kg in weight at a position close to his body and nothing he had to carry, at no time did they recommend he NOT lift anything. Our subsequent RA then precluded him from any lifting activities and his job was altered accordingly.
boblewis  
#5 Posted : 12 June 2013 12:00:15(UTC)
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boblewis

Blodwyn Definitely not DDA as this is DEAD, DEFUNCT, EXTINCT, EXPIRED to remember a parrot sketch. All is under EA 2010 and the definitions of a protected category very definitely cover such illnesses as this. I paraphrase the duty as: A person suffering an illness, physical or mental, that prevents normal functioning in life and which has lasted or is likely to last more than 12 months. It is thus not a simple task assessment that is required in the OPs case. Bob
bob youel  
#6 Posted : 12 June 2013 12:33:30(UTC)
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bob youel

This is a combined effort [OH, HR, H&S + the person concerned] otherwise all things will not be covered It may be a case where there is only one [not nice] option left if a reasonable adjustment is not feasible
Ron Hunter  
#7 Posted : 12 June 2013 12:43:13(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Martin50 wrote:
I have been asked to undertake an indivdual manual handling risk assessment. Thanks,
Ron Hunter  
#8 Posted : 12 June 2013 12:45:59(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

oops! The response that should have gone with the above was to say that "individual manual handling assessment" is not a realistic objective. As has been said already, it is a capability assessment that is required involving HR, the individual concerned and the OH report. Don't be side-tracked by ill-informed (but perhaps well intentioned) requests which will only deflect and delay the required outcomes.
bob youel  
#9 Posted : 13 June 2013 07:16:09(UTC)
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bob youel

Ron is correct its also a capability RA with a MHSW and MHO specific RA combined and all other aspects rolled together to obtain the outcome hence the comment 'combined effort' A problem we have is that in many many cases [in my experience] neither HR nor Occ Health are competent re risk assessment, job/person analysis and all the areas that go together to obtain a suitable & sufficient RA - outcome It sounds complicated but it can be easily done as all it needs is commitment
Terry556  
#10 Posted : 13 June 2013 08:01:13(UTC)
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Terry556

I would pass it onto HR & Occy health, and offer him other work, arthritis is classed as a disability, no RA is going to alter the fact that he has problems lifting, give the employee a weight limit he can lift without causing him/her discomfort, or change his job task
Jen8885  
#11 Posted : 13 June 2013 09:00:47(UTC)
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Jen8885

As an OH professional if I had a case like this I would be going to this employees point of work and observing what he is doing. If OH is from an outside company or a person who isn't familiar with the task then it would be useful (like someone has already mentioned) to have a task specific risk assessment e.g. detailing weight, reps etc. But ultimately we should be advising you on what this individual can or cannot do, and what reasonable adjustments are required.
Martin50  
#12 Posted : 13 June 2013 09:26:22(UTC)
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Martin50

ron hunter wrote:
oops! The response that should have gone with the above was to say that "individual manual handling assessment" is not a realistic objective. As has been said already, it is a capability assessment that is required involving HR, the individual concerned and the OH report. Don't be side-tracked by ill-informed (but perhaps well intentioned) requests which will only deflect and delay the required outcomes.
The consultant rheumatologist suggests a work place assessment on this persons limitations, restricted in his upper limbs wrist and elbow. The OH report says fit for work unless you deem otherwise at time of risk assessment. The job task is to carry coffins. How do I do this work place assessment and should it not invlove the OH people?
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