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brian02  
#1 Posted : 06 July 2013 14:57:32(UTC)
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brian02

Hi everyone Does having the diploma allow people to conduct fire risk assessments. Thanks
JJ Prendergast  
#2 Posted : 07 July 2013 00:29:44(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

Whether you have the diploma or not, is not particularly relevant. The question is are you competent, qualifications being one issue to consider. I do fire risk assessments for oil refineries/oil rigs etc - the way fire risk assessment is taught by NEBOSH/IOSH etc for traditional buildings etc would be of virtually no use at all for these types of facilities. Am I competent, probably not according to NEBOSH and most traditional fire risk assessors who appear on here - because I haven't done the IOSH/NEBOSH Fire risk assessment course. Am I competent for normal buildings, yes I think so SO are you happy to do fire risk assessments? Are you happy you could defend your assessment if questioned about it?
bob youel  
#3 Posted : 08 July 2013 09:08:39(UTC)
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bob youel

As JJ has said competence is far more than attending a particular course and being a member of one group or another Recent fire risk assessments that I have evaluated, which were undertaken by retired people who are now fire risk assessors are poor to say the least but the assessors are members of the 'right' group. Additionally such assessments are being undertaken but they are being undertaken without the controllers/employers input so no ownership etc. is present and no employees that I evaluated were involved nor had seen the assessments - In many cases they appear to be tick box assessments The only place a risk assessment will be judged is in a court but by then it may be to late
Gavin Gibson  
#4 Posted : 09 July 2013 16:18:42(UTC)
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Gavin Gibson

If you have ever had a second fire risk assessment completed by the same organisation you will be amazed how different it is from the original. Standards and checklists are useful, but it is the competency of the assessor that counts. Competency being a mix of: - training - experience - understanding of the work environment - understanding of the hazards present Understanding of how fires occur and transfer... So having a NEBOSH diploma is not the whole answer, but it helps.
SBH  
#5 Posted : 09 July 2013 17:40:37(UTC)
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SBH

Totally agree with Bob, I have also come across many risk assessments carried out by retired persons who presume they are competent fire risk assessors because they were in a certain 'group, of servicemen and yes I have accompanied them on their assessments and was disappointed to discover a tick box exercise and a "this is the form we were given " when I challenged the validity of their competence. Also jobs for the boys!!! SBH
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