It's been a long week again, and just want to double check something. I'm planning to have some down pipes / guttering removed and have checked using the HSE essentials online checker if a licensed contractor is required, to which the answer is No. Just want to confirm that if you only need a trained contractor with appropriate method statements and disposal process, and not a licensed contractor, then I / they do not have to notify the HSE. Correct ?? Or do I have more research ahead of me? As always thanks for any help. Chris

I think your spot-on Chris. All cement products, fibres will remain firmly bound in the cement matrix. Potential pitfalls where the gutter brackets are in turn fixed to AIB or products of a lesser density not meeting the AC definition.

With the limited information available, I would suggest that the work described would not be "Non-Notifiabe Licensed Work". But please check with the HSE information on the subject for confirmation. However, no one has yet commented on the waste disposal aspects. If you employ a Licensed Contractor to remove these items, they will have a Waste Carriers Licence and if they value their Asbestos Licence you can be assured that waste will end up a licensed land fill site. Get three quotes from the local builders and go for the cheapest by all means, but you may then drive past your removed items fly tipped in a lay by near you. You would need to verify that the disposal has taken place, which will probably cost you more than what you would save. Regards Rodger Ker.

Thanks all for the responses. I put the work through the HSE online check to see if a licensed contractor is required and it said no, but I was not sure if that automatically means not notifiable. It seems from above that there may be instances where even non licensed work may require notification. Something to look into over the weekend. Just informed MD has let the contract - Ha Ho. Have I seen a method statement NO, or anything else for that matter. In this instance caps are shouting, not just emphasis. Thanks all, Chris

Presumably your analysis of these gutters etc have revealed only chrysotile present. I have found crocidolite and amosite containing gutters in properties along the east coast port areas, London, Bristol and Liverpool. All were identical in appearance to chrysotile only material. You really do need confidence in the sampling selection regime. Have to admit the flowchart to the A0 document linked by Peter G is a bit naff, badly constructed, but does its job Bob

Thanks everyone above and Peter for the email. Yes the asbestos survey determined it was only chrysotile from samples taken. This was before my time with the company, but I have no reason to doubt the report. The Asbestos cement is in good condition and has a few layers of paint on it, so I hope it will come down without any problems. So from the reference material (and yes that flow chart is a bit naff, but as you say does the job). I don't feel it is notifiable non licensed work either. So providing the MD has taken on board my request that the company provide me a method statement and proof of up to date training ( before they turn up every thing should be hunky dory (and the next pig is about to take off). I have to wait and see. Again thanks for all the help. Onward to the next battle. Chris