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Mark1969  
#1 Posted : 30 July 2013 12:01:08(UTC)
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Mark1969

One for you to get your teeth into. I have 2 ovens which contain a Chrysotile front panel (about 1 metre sq) I also have a Chrysotile cement panel base (less than 1 metre sq) that I want to remove. The oven panels are Licensable, the panel base is not licenseable. I have a registered waste carrier that can transport and dispose of the asbestos correctly. Now the real question - am I able to remove the oven panels myself and double bag or what ever is required by my waste carrier for transportation, or do I need a specialist to remove these panels, bearing in mind they are screwed into place and the screw heads are in good condition, the ovens are at the end of their life cycle and will be disposed of as scrap metal once the asbestos has been removed. Answers most gratefully recieved.
peter gotch  
#2 Posted : 30 July 2013 13:00:03(UTC)
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peter gotch

Mark You can do it if you can convince yourself that it doesn't fall within the definition licensable work with asbestos” is work— (a)where the exposure to asbestos of employees is not sporadic and of low intensity; or (b)in relation to which the risk assessment cannot clearly demonstrate that the control limit will not be exceeded; or (c)on asbestos coating; or (d)on asbestos insulating board or asbestos insulation for which the risk assessment— (i)demonstrates that the work is not sporadic and of low intensity, or (ii)cannot clearly demonstrate that the control limit will not be exceeded, or (iii)demonstrates that the work is not short duration work; You could take each door off intact? But all in all, unless you can confidently predict (very low) levels of exposure, I'd get a licensed contractor. Have you had a demolition survey done? Could also be e.g. gaskets with asbestos.
Mark1969  
#3 Posted : 30 July 2013 14:36:46(UTC)
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Mark1969

Thanks Peter, I have convinced myself that I can safely remove the items on top of the chrysotile base without damaging the base or releasing any fibres. I am also confident I can remove the oven door to access the panels and then remove them, the area where I am less confident is could I then demonstrate after the fact all bases were covered, if I ever needed to. There is no indication that either of the 3 panels would fall apart on removal and the overns are housed in an outbuilding that only contains them and some historical parts. I havent had a demolition survey done on the ovens, the asbestos plates were an afterthought as these ovens were used for very high temperature work. Thanks again for your points, I am loathe to contract this work out unless I absolutely have to.
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 31 July 2013 12:56:28(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Hmmm........ reference to some of the typical examples in the HSE asbestos task manual (free as pdf) l would give me pause for thought. The door would seem easy enough. For other areas, the Task Manual infers and implies shadow-vacuuming.............
walker  
#5 Posted : 31 July 2013 13:04:19(UTC)
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walker

Mark1969 wrote:
One for you to get your teeth into. I have 2 ovens which contain a Chrysotile front panel (about 1 metre sq) I also have a Chrysotile cement panel base (less than 1 metre sq) that I want to remove. The oven panels are Licensable, the panel base is not licenseable. I have a registered waste carrier that can transport and dispose of the asbestos correctly. Now the real question - am I able to remove the oven panels myself and double bag or what ever is required by my waste carrier for transportation, or do I need a specialist to remove these panels, bearing in mind they are screwed into place and the screw heads are in good condition, the ovens are at the end of their life cycle and will be disposed of as scrap metal once the asbestos has been removed. Answers most gratefully recieved.
Are you postive you have identified all the asbestos in the oven? I ask as an ex-oven manufacturer tech support guy.
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