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LATCHY		#1 Posted : 04 September 2013 13:10:06(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Dilema, when the crane was first put in no walkways etc were attached to the crane, now the crane needs its LOLER Certification, the engineers cant get access, without either scaffolding the whole crane out which will cause down time at £3000 per hour, could anyone tell me if there is any way to inspect a crane by attaching something to the rails and sliding the length of the rails etc , what I am looking for is a cost effcetive way of doing the same inspection, advise please. thank you.
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peter gotch		#2 Posted : 04 September 2013 13:13:00(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Latchy - how old is this crane?
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SW		#3 Posted : 04 September 2013 13:15:04(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Can you run safety lines above the rails down the whole length so the Engineer can clip his harness on to? I know a Company that did this and the cost was a one off of about £5000 (Plus inspections of it at a later date) Think the run was about 60m down each side.
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LATCHY		#4 Posted : 04 September 2013 13:22:00(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		peter gotch wrote: Latchy - how old is this crane? The crane is virtually new 3 yrs old
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LATCHY		#5 Posted : 04 September 2013 13:23:27(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		SW wrote: Can you run safety lines above the rails down the whole length so the Engineer can clip his harness on to? I know a Company that did this and the cost was a one off of about £5000 (Plus inspections of it at a later date) Think the run was about 60m down each side. There was the mention of a cherry picker or a MEWP, but access will be difficult
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chris42		#6 Posted : 04 September 2013 14:08:48(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Ours were old and used to be done with a MEWP, but you say you have an access problem, so can not go this route. It may be worth looking at possible places the crane can be positioned that will allow MEWP access. It may even be necessary to inspect one side at one end of the factory and the other at the other end (driving the MEWP around the building). How will anyone carrying out maintenance get to it ?
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Laurence(Loz)		#7 Posted : 04 September 2013 14:10:43(UTC)
Rank: New forum user		We have to carry out the same inspections on our cranes 3 of them, ok we don't seem to have the downtime or access issues you are having to deal with, but ours are tested by Zurich using our Cherry Picker. Your options are limited, but the loss of £3000 downtime will seem like peanuts if your crane is taken out of service by the HSE for not having a valid inspection. I would suggest the quicker option is to bring a Cherry Picker in or a Mobile Tower! Laurence
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peter gotch		#8 Posted : 04 September 2013 17:33:34(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Well may be someone should be looking with a critical eye at your CDM team for the design and installation of the crane. What's it say in the HS File and Operations & Maintenance Manual about future maintenance, inspection and thorough examination?
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HeO2		#9 Posted : 04 September 2013 18:12:47(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Why not use rope access. I'm sure there are IRATA companies that will have specialist inspectors? Phil
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LATCHY		#10 Posted : 04 September 2013 18:35:08(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		peter gotch wrote: Well may be someone should be looking with a critical eye at your CDM team for the design and installation of the crane. What's it say in the HS File and Operations & Maintenance Manual about future maintenance, inspection and thorough examination? Good point that was one of the question s I have asked, why this was not approached in the design team meetings, surely it should have been considered.
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LATCHY		#11 Posted : 04 September 2013 18:37:11(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		HeO2 wrote: Why not use rope access. I'm sure there are IRATA companies that will have specialist inspectors? Phil Also good point Phil I have recommended this type of access, it is all in the hands of the powers that be
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John M		#12 Posted : 04 September 2013 21:17:30(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Whoa! Has anybody considered LIVE busbars? Surely this must be considered well in advance of MEWS etc Jon
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John M		#13 Posted : 04 September 2013 21:19:18(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		MEWPS - instead of MEWS above. Oh for an edit button again.
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HeO2		#14 Posted : 04 September 2013 22:00:43(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		The lock off and tag out regime would form a massive part of the SSOW or RA if you used A competent contractor, before ropes or harnesses even come out of the van.
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LATCHY		#15 Posted : 05 September 2013 06:09:47(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		John M wrote: Whoa! Has anybody considered LIVE busbars? Surely this must be considered well in advance of MEWS etc Good Morning John, please forgive my ignorance, can you explain what live busbars are ? Thanks Jon
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paulw71		#16 Posted : 05 September 2013 08:59:36(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		Latchy The busbars are the conductive copper bars that supply the electricity to the crane motor and hoist etc. They sometimes run parrallel to the track rails. Think of it like the live rail on a train track.
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