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"Labourer required for Monday start. You will be assisting my client in the assembly of large bins being provided and bolting on the tow bars. PPE is essential and CSCS card For more information please get in touch"
I came across this job advert while looking for work for my son.
is this common, having to provide your own PPE?
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I think it advisable for anyone wanting such work to have their own PPE.
1. they can ensure it is the correct and good quality PPE, and,
2 it shows the prospective employer they have some forethought.
3. it saves the employer some dosh.
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Ken,
Unfortunately this all to common, particularly in construction along with other issues concerning Labour Only Sub Contractors and where agency labour is used. We can argue all we want on the rights and wrongs but at the end of the day if the lad(s) (ies) turn up with no PPE they get no work. A hard fact of life I am afraid.
Best bet is take him to a reputable supplier and but him some decent PPE and mark it all up to stop others nicking it - almost like being back at school.
Sorry I cannot be of more help. Good luck to your son though.
Regards
Clive
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As above we can argue right / wrongs of this, but when I was job hunting I did see this quite a bit. I remember one advert you had to bring your own harness ! There's a lot of desperate people.
Its easy to see both sides to the issue if someone is only required for a couple of days then, you can understand to an extent. It would make me wonder what other corners are being cut though.
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If your Self Employed you are expected to buy your own boots, jacket etc you just claim it back when you do your tax.
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We have discussed similar a number of times in respect of agency workers and I don't think we have ever come to any consensus. It is common practice for many (not all) employers to ask agency workers or similar to be asked to provide their own, or some of their own PPE. The main sticking point tends to be safety footwear. It is something of a festering sore that the HSE have done little or nothing to resolve. The bottom line for many of these workers is that either they do what they're told or they don't get the work. I don't necessarily agree with it but that is the reality.
Of course, providing your own PPE does not necessarily ensure that you either provide the correct PPE or good quality PPE; I would suggest that in many cases quite to opposite might be true. Ordinarily you might reasonably conclude that the employer (rather than a ‘casual’ employee) is best placed to identify the risks and the PPE required to protect against them. Those people who are temporary, casual or agency workers are not necessarily always in the best financial situation, so there is every chance that they may buy PPE with cost rather than quality in mind.
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Perhaps a brief note stating to the prospective agency worker what the requirements are for the PPE, i.e. approved to the following standard EN 345, 471 etc
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Had a similar discussion only this week. I did not and will not sit on the fence with this one. I told the agency it is their legal and moral duty to ensure the contingent labour they provide are kitted out with appropriate PPE. If anyone turns up on site without PPE they will be turned away - end of.
It is the employer's duty to provide PPE and as far as I'm concerned agencies make a profit by providing those people so they must accept some responsibility. I agree with the above comment about the HSE and law being as clear mud - so I am happy to make my own judgement.
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