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lisar  
#1 Posted : 13 September 2013 12:04:10(UTC)
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lisar

Are empty oil drums classed as hazardous waste? The dreggs of oil would be new oil and not old oil from car engines. I ask this because we may need to take back old for new to satisfy customers but my equal has said it is hazardous waste?
Mandy Ellis  
#2 Posted : 13 September 2013 12:18:16(UTC)
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Mandy Ellis

Hello, From my understanding, anything that touches oil is deemed as hazardous waste. The company I work for dispose of oil, including oily rags and gloves. If anyone puts hazardous waste in the general waste (which they do - much to my annoyance, because it's usually me who has to sort it out) the whole lot is deemed as hazardous waste. Therefore anything you put in that drum that has dregs of oil, will be deemed hazardous waste. The environment agency are very strict on this, with hefty fines. Definitely not worth the risk in my opinion. Mandy
stevenb  
#3 Posted : 13 September 2013 12:20:00(UTC)
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stevenb

Lisar Assuming that the oil is classified as "Hazardous" in the first instance, then the residually empty barrels will also be. Regards
lisar  
#4 Posted : 13 September 2013 12:31:46(UTC)
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lisar

We wouldnt be putting anything in the drums. Just collecting by road in a small van and storing at warehouse until collected
redken  
#5 Posted : 13 September 2013 12:39:29(UTC)
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redken

https://www.hazwasteonli...nd_out_if_waste_oil_.pdf This should be the definitive answer but it is not an easy read.
Bluenose  
#6 Posted : 13 September 2013 14:52:21(UTC)
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Bluenose

Lisar, all waste oil is classed as haz waste and should be disposed of accordingly. You will need a licensed waste contractor (who will give you advice on what you are required to do by law) who can do this for you.
jay  
#7 Posted : 13 September 2013 15:11:41(UTC)
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jay

The authoritative guidance is at the Environment Agecy Website forclassifying and assessing waste can be found in: Technical Guidance WM2 - Interpretation of the definition and classification of hazardous waste The waste is most likely to be considered as "Packaging Waste" with the list of waste regulation code on page A26 and there is the example 10 on pages A46 to A50 http://a0768b4a8a31e106d....com/LIT_5426_0db554.pdf 15 01 10* "packaging containing residues of or contaminated by dangerous substances" The above entry is designated as an Absolute hazardous (AH) entry, i.e. These wastes are marked in the List with an asterisk (*) but the waste description next to the six-digit code does not have a "specific" or "general" reference to "dangerous substances" in their waste description. They are automatically considered hazardous. You do not need to work out what chemicals are in the waste to find out if it is hazardous or not. You must still find what (if any) hazardous properties the waste has for consignment and transport purposes.
gotogmca  
#8 Posted : 13 September 2013 15:31:17(UTC)
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gotogmca

Lisar, all reponders to date are quite correct in that oil waste is classed as hazardous for transport. However, there is a small get out clause within ADR regulations that will permit you to carry this waste without the need for ADR trained drivers, etc. It is covered under 1.1.3.6.3 of the ADR regs. Basically if you do not exceed a certain amount and it depends on what it is you are carrying you can transport them under certain restrictions. If you know a DGSA (Dangerous Goods Safety Advisor) they will be able to assist. Alternatively, PM me and I may be able to help.
chris42  
#9 Posted : 13 September 2013 15:50:00(UTC)
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chris42

I'm not so sure ! Are these metal oil drums with a film of oil on the inside ? I would consider them more scrap metal than contaminated waste, otherwise every machine, conveyor other large metal whatever taken from a factory ( car engine) would be hazardous waste. But they normally just go as scrap metal. I had a similar issue with paint tins, but a certain percentage ( I think it was 1 %) paint could remain. So we would drain and crush the tins. Drained paint hazardous, tins scrap. We certainly never degreased everything metal before it went to scrap. look into this more, or it could be expensive ( either way)
gotogmca  
#10 Posted : 13 September 2013 16:02:36(UTC)
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gotogmca

Thanks Chris42, you reminded me of a section of ADR that I had forgotten about See http://www.hse.gov.uk/cd...blems/emptyuncleaned.htm This may help
jay  
#11 Posted : 13 September 2013 16:33:54(UTC)
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jay

The fact that a waste stream is classified as "Hazardous Waste" does NOT mean that it cannot be sent for recycling, scrapping etc. Packaging in the 15 xx yy waste code series and oils in the waste code 13 xx yy series can be recycled, even if the are classified as "Hazardous Waste". It is just that the recycling contractor should be licenced to receive and process the "waste stream"
sweetcaz  
#12 Posted : 13 September 2013 16:34:51(UTC)
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sweetcaz

We collect hundreds of empty oil barrels every month. We have a waste carriers licence and collect them on duty of care notes under EWC code 15 01 10. They are treated as packaging waste rather than hazardous waste. They come back to us as the supplier of the oil from our customers and are then taken away by the original drum supplier for reconditioning prior to reuse. We've had many specialist 14001 audits and all auditors have been happy that this meets the requirements of the regs. As an aside we also collect empty 25 litre metal drums with oil residues. These are simply crushed on site and sent to the local scrap dealer.
Andrew W Walker  
#13 Posted : 13 September 2013 16:53:54(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

Lisa. Check section 14 of the MSDS. This will tell you if its classed as Haz for transport. I would suggest that its not. Andy
bentonsr  
#14 Posted : 14 September 2013 15:33:54(UTC)
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bentonsr

The way I understand it, empty oil drums (this includes cooking oil) should be treated as Haz waste and disposed of via authorised dealer, although the transport Haz regs do not come in to play due to the actual quantity of oil
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