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While there is another rant/discussion regarding CSCS cards ongoing, I too could do with a hazy area clearing up.
Can anybody tell me the actual hierarchy of the cards?
As a APS Registered CDM-C (RMAPS) I qualify for a white PQP card, is this card considered higher or lower than a managers card?
CSCS are no help at all, I called them and the guy on the phone wasn't aware of a CDM-C as an occupation.
All he could recommend from his search was temporary works coordinator. I doesn't really fill me with confidence about their scheme.
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I was looking at the job boards for a job, when I came across RmAPS and thought what's that?
I was slightly annoyed that it's yet another group claiming it's to increase safety - which no doubt I shall have to join and jump through more hoops, including their version of a CPD and pay money annually for the privilege.
I still have get a CSCS card.
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Kim
The CPCS "Blue Card" is for Construction Plant operators i.e. Crane Drivers, Moxy Drivers, Rollers, Diggers, Graders etc and should not be confused with the CSCS card scheme. Each of the scheme providers is affiliated or linked to the CITB in some way.
The cards will list on reverse side the type and capacity of equipment the holder is deemed competent to operate. No self respecting operator should attempt to operate equipment categories that are not listed on his card.
Some years ago I had to investigate an incident of a 16 ton (capacity) roller tip over as it attempted to mount a kerb. The type of roller had a history of such tip overs - nationally. The operator was a very good operator and indeed a very good & reliable employee (for his company). However, the roller tipped over side ways - the operator bailed out - some opined that if he was wearing a seat belt he would have suffered injury or even death. Fortunately, he was uninjured
His card indicated that he was only approved to operate rollers up to 8 ton capacity. The type of roller was subsequently banned from our and other sites as it was becoming a far too frequent and common. occurrence
Hope this helps.
Jon
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RMaPs is handy for CDM-C and gives a level of assurance to a Client that the person has "jumped thru hoops" and has full knowledge of CDM Regs especially supported by NEBOSH Construction Cert.
Lots of good/bad advice and interpretations of the CSCS cards. Love them or loathe they are here to stay for the forseeable and at least they give a nominal level of H&S knowledge to all levels of construction workers. And for those who think it is too easy, I can tell you I have seen a higher percentage of people fail the MAPS tests than the Specialist /Operatives tests. Yes it is multichoice, and some of the questions are "of the wall", and things we should know, but so many PQPs can and do get complacent.
White PQP card is for those using their Professional memberships ie IOSH, CIOB, etc.
The Black Managers card is for those who have attained NVQ5 /QCF 6/7 equivalent in a construction related trade which includes Construction H&S Manager.
As John M states they do list your highest qualification on the reverse.
For both white and black cards you sit the same Managers and Professional (MAPs) CSCS health, safety and environmental test and they last for 5 years.
So the choice is yours, in black or white! :-)
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"I was looking at the job boards for a job, when I came across RmAPS and thought what's that?
I was slightly annoyed that it's yet another group claiming it's to increase safety - which no doubt I shall have to join and jump through more hoops, including their version of a CPD and pay money annually for the privilege."
Kim
The Association of Project Safety is not another "hoop to jump through".
You may wish to join, don't assume you will get Registered membership by merely paying a subscription, you need qualifications and experience.
APS are more involved with the transition of the CDM Regulations than any other safety group, including IOSH.
Sutty does it really matter what colour your CSCS card is?
As a CDM Coordinator you don't manage site safety - a point to remember the PC can prevent you access to site if they so wish.
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sutty wrote:
Can anybody tell me the actual hierarchy of the cards?
There is no hierarchy with respect to safety. It's a single threshold yes/no across all cards.
If you qualify for PQP and aren't managing construction full-time on site, then PQP is the card to apply for. The managers cards are for people full-time on site managing construction operations.
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Sutty does it really matter what colour your CSCS card is?
My employer is requesting all their employees hold black, managers cards.
I haven't done an NVQ but do have Nebosh NGC and NCC and as a PQP am of the opinion that the white card should prove a higher or at least equal level of competence.
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