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We have installed biomass boilers on some of our sites and are experiencing problems with wood pellets sticking together and to the hopper sides in some designs (where an existing room has been converted into a pellet store). This results in having stock which doesn't fall into the auger to feed the boiler. If you have experienced this problem and have addressed the issue, can you please let me know how - either through working practices or through design.
We are avoiding entry into wood pellet stores due to confined space working requirements.
With thanks
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Shouldn't you be asking the manufacturer / supplier /installer?
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I am looking for an independant view point.
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Hacon, why waste your time.... follow Clairel's suggestion I say!
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Thanks for your reply. I posted this query on the forum in order to find out information from biomass boiler users.
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Hi Hacon
In order to provide a better focussed response, could you provide a little more detail on the shape & dimensions of your feed hopper.
Frank Hallett
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Hello Frank
They vary. Some pellet stores are enclosed tank feed hopper (manufacturer provided), others are a purpose built delivered store with plant room (delivered as a "building") others are converted existing rooms.
The angle of the hopper sides is recommended to be at least 45 degrees and are either made out of metal or wood. The wood pellets that are stuck do not follow the "line" of the hopper sides necessary.
I understand that other biomass boiler users are experiencing similar issues. The hopper material and hopper angle isn't necessarily making a difference as the problem isn't consistent across all, temperature etc may be having an impact.
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Hi
I have limited experience with biomass boilers, however I have in the past been involved in the safety issues associated with the management of coal bunkers/boilers. In cold conditions the moisture content present within the bunker resulted in the freezing together of the coal and "bridging" occurred as the auger took away the loose coal below and left a cave like gap around it. I imagine this is similar to the situation you are finding with the wood pellets,
It was this mechanism that had unfortunately led to the death of an individual who had walked over the coal not realising the bridge was there, he fell through into the gap and surrounding coal fell in on top of him causing asphyxiation. As a result of this a range of "trimming tools" were introduced across the organisation to permit coal to be moved towards the auger without the need to enter the bunker.
This incident did occur in the late 80's (possibly 1990) but hopefully the solutions generated then may be of use to you now and help prevent further injury/loss.
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OK Hacon
The problem possibly stems from one or more of the natural cellulose residue inherent in the pellets, coupled with adsorption by the pellets of air-borne moisture [makes them stickier] & the inherent characteristics of the hoppers [slipperiness of the hopper sides].
Also, individually, the pellets have a comparatively light mass for their size, which will allow greater adherence given their inherent characteristics.
Have you tried experimenting with introducing a vibration element to the hoppers to prevent pellet build-up??
Hope that helps
Frank Hallett
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Hi Hacon - No experience of these units but did have a client who tried to make such pellets. He's now tried x3 different pellet/log-producing machines, of which the pellet one was first and the most problematic. I suspect Frank's nearest the reason - there's no real standard for pellets and you may get different ones with different "stickiness" depending on how it was made and from what, and its age.
My client was making these from minced scrap softwood (mainly pallets). I guess it depends what wood actually goes in. He gave up because the manufacturing costs outweighed the value of the product. Energy costs were large - these things shoot out of the press red hot and can wear out steel components in the press very quickly! You effectively liquefy the wood under pressure at temperatures >300C. The 3rd attempt produces economically viable low density chipwood logs reliably.
My research also revealed that pellets can and have combusted spontaneously - I guess due to the friction as the compressed wood tries to expand if damp - and there have been several asphyxiation deaths in ships holds because they also release CO to form a toxic atmosphere again suggesting spontaneous decomposition....
Sorry I can't be more help but I hope this is food for thought.
Dave Daniel
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As above with regarding to the initial query. However I echo DaveDaniel post regarding toxic atmosphere. These pellets do degrade and produce CO gases and several deaths have been reported (not just in ships holds either apparently) and whilst I am unable to help with the initial query I would recommend that that this information is circulated as widely as possible.
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Although not directly related to your stated problem Hacon; I agree with the additional comments re volatility and also reduction of O2 in the immediate ambient atmosphere - you're quite right to treat the hoppers as a confined space for both reasons.
As with any bulk-stored, granular or free-flowing cellulose-based material, Pellets have a propensity to commence an exo-thermic reaction in bulk storage [unlikely in the feed-hopper though] that is very dependant on the condition on delivery, amount of humidity in the bulk storage vessel, actual storage mode, and especially related to bulk and duration without agitating - DSEAR applies to this aspect.
Hope that does it
Frank Hallett
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Seeing the word 'auger' above prompts me to mention as a general aside that augers with their helical screw configuration are inherently dangerous items of machinery. I've investigated two auger accidents which resulted in foot amputations (one in a road gritting lorry hopper, the other at an ice-making plant at a fishing port) and knew of others investigated by colleagues. Thus, strict precautions are needed to prevent anyone having access to augers which are rotating (or could rotate intermittently and unexpectedly) under power.
Though I'm not acquainted with biomass pellet hoppers I guess that they do not incorporate mesh guards/grids over the augers because such features would hinder the downward movement of pellets and increase the tendency for bridging to occur. Therefore, locking-off of the power supply to a pellet auger is almost certainly as essential as measures against asphyxiation before anyone enters such a hopper.
Also, with ever-increasing rises in the price of gas and other conventional fuels, it's likely that more companies and organisations will consider and choose to have biomass heating systems installed in their buildings.
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I think conversion to biomass is due less to decreased cost of fuel, and more due to the availability of various forms of "cost assistance" available. All helping to reduce UK(2013)Plc carbon "footprint".
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Hello dear sirs! I'm sorry if it's a wrong thread or a wrong forum, but it seems like some people on this forum use biomass boilers. I represent Russian company and we would like to get to know more UK market of wood pellets. It will take just 5 minutes, but will mean a lot to us and understand UK market. The link is here (it is totally save and confidental, using google sheets): http://goo.gl/forms/XZsTtkt65DWe appreciate your help!
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John, it depends on the fuel they are replacing. We have a domestic biomass boiler, and we have it for two reasons. One is that we were previously using propane for our heating, not being on mains. Pellets are approximately half the cost per kWh; this is partly due to a favourable VAT rate (5%) but even at the full 20% we would be saving around 30% p.a. on heating costs. They are more expensive (per kWh) than mains gas, but cheaper than propane and also oil.
The other reason is that the last two years have been the warmest on record, and 2016 looks set to continue this trend. There is fossil carbon use in pellet manufacture and distribution, but mostly they use about 15% of the fossil carbon per kWh compared to burning fossil fuels directly. Some manufacturers use biomass power to make the pellets, they get their fossil carbon use down to around 5%.
Yes, there are subsidies, but I think you may be being unkind by attributing purely cynical motives, even to businesses. My motives for using pellets are mixed, I suspect that's the case for most,
John
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This is a 2.5 yr-old thread! I wonder what the deleted message contributed to the debate :)
If anyone's reading this with the same query, we installed a walking floor in our main fuel store.
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gramsay
I think quite a number of us wondered about the nature of the message at #16 and why it was deleted. One possibility was that it comprised an advert and therefore in clear breach of forum rules.
As for the age of the thread, there's surely no reason why people cannot respond to existing threads irrespective of when they were started. Some old threads contain information and/or viewpoints which remain very valid and pertinent and thus provide a useful basis for renewed discussion. The phrase about 'not re-inventing wheels' springs to mind!
Graham B
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With regards to storage, then one suggestion is to use an ISO tank, this is a pressure vessel and so if pellets stick together you can reverse cycle them to dry them out and it creates a bit of mechanicl movement without destroying the pellets. You could also look at keeping it all as a fully enclosed system, hence no issues with dust, however you need to give air somewhere to go when it sends plugs of pellets over to the feed hopper via someting like a dense phase blower. At that point you would need to look at dust capture through local exhaust ventilation. Specialist problems, reequire specialist people.
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Originally Posted by: Clairel  Shouldn't you be asking the manufacturer / supplier /installer?
Employe a technologist rather than bark up the wrong tree, even if you employ just to get you up and running.
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