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Martin50  
#1 Posted : 04 October 2013 09:38:08(UTC)
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Martin50

The new RIDDOR HSE document states" Accidents must be recorded, but not reported where they result in a worker being incapacitated for more than three consecutive days, but not reported. Unless a specified injury. My query is that do all minor accidents say leading to no time off or one or two days off need to be recorded at all? This seems to be thrust of the new RIDDOR on the HSE website. If an employer wants to just comply with the law, and do no more, then reading the new RIDDOR, the employer only needs to record accidents of three days or more? Interested in your views...... ???
Safety Smurf  
#2 Posted : 04 October 2013 09:57:06(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Hi Martin, All accidents have to be recorded regardless of whether there was any time off. There are two peices of legislation that deal with the recording of accidents. One being RIDDOR, the other is the Social Security Act.
bluefingers  
#3 Posted : 04 October 2013 10:16:14(UTC)
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bluefingers

Further to the above, I am looking for a little clarification regarding the changes to RIDDOR. In recording a 3 day absence as a result of a workplace injury, how do I deal with the weekend period? A worker was injured yesterday and he has not come to work today (friday). If he arrives back on Monday, has he been absent for 3 consecutive days?
Safety Smurf  
#4 Posted : 04 October 2013 10:42:55(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Bluefingers, You'll have to make a call on whether the IP would of been able to carry out their full range of normal duties had they been at work.
Martin50  
#5 Posted : 04 October 2013 13:18:30(UTC)
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Martin50

Safety Smurf wrote:
Hi Martin, All accidents have to be recorded regardless of whether there was any time off. There are two peices of legislation that deal with the recording of accidents. One being RIDDOR, the other is the Social Security Act.
peter gotch  
#6 Posted : 04 October 2013 13:19:34(UTC)
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peter gotch

Bluefingers - you don't count the day of the accident (Thursday), and its over 3 days. So Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. If not fit to undertake normal duties until Tuesday, then an over 3 day injury accident.
Martin50  
#7 Posted : 04 October 2013 13:19:34(UTC)
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Martin50

Okay, so where in the Social Security Act does it say that all accidents in the work place have to be recorded? Thanks
Safety Smurf  
#8 Posted : 04 October 2013 14:10:14(UTC)
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Safety Smurf

Martin50 wrote:
Okay, so where in the Social Security Act does it say that all accidents in the work place have to be recorded? Thanks
Regulation 25(1). “Every employer shall take reasonable steps to investigate the circumstances of every accident of which notice is given to him or to his servant or agent in accordance with the provisions of regulation 24…” Regulation 25(3). This requires employers of 10 or more people (employed at the same time at the same business premises) to… (a) keep readily accessible a means (whether in a book or books or by electronic means), in a form approved by the Secretary of State, by which a person employed by the employer or some other person acting on his behalf may record the appropriate particulars; and (b) keep any such records for at least three years from the date they were first entered. Comment: It is regulation 25(3) that places the duty on employers to keep Accident Books.
Martin50  
#9 Posted : 04 October 2013 14:37:45(UTC)
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Martin50

Now that's what a call an answer! Very helpful, and many thanks
Engr M.I. Wakawa  
#10 Posted : 04 October 2013 15:20:46(UTC)
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Engr M.I. Wakawa

I just resd the RIDDOR and strongly believe all incidents weather or not results in LTI's should be recorded. No room should lead to employers or employees to be reluctant in doing so..That might inturn cause loopholes in corrections being made which is in essence the reasons why we have repeated incidences...I strongly advice.
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