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I have been asked to find our legal liability to our franchise workers.
The company employ workers directly and these workers deliver and install white goods, including gas.
We have several franchise companies who employ workers that are classed as self employed on the franchise books, they do exactly the same work as company staff and the work is given out exactly the same as our staff we just pay the franchise company and they pay their staff, there are issues if they can be classed as self employed for HMRC but that's a different story.
My opinion is that they are our responsibility and should a problem arises we would be liable, another thought is that we should make sure the franchise have a a current H&S policy and their own RA and SSOW for each job but because they do exactly the same as us ours should suffice.
I have the NGC but it is little help where this is concerned.
links to legislation and official acops would be appreciated because I need to present this to the directors.
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Green Hornet wrote:I have been asked to find our legal liability to our franchise workers.
The company employ workers directly and these workers deliver and install white goods, including gas.
We have several franchise companies who employ workers that are classed as self employed on the franchise books, they do exactly the same work as company staff and the work is given out exactly the same as our staff we just pay the franchise company and they pay their staff, there are issues if they can be classed as self employed for HMRC but that's a different story.
My opinion is that they are our responsibility and should a problem arises we would be liable, another thought is that we should make sure the franchise have a a current H&S policy and their own RA and SSOW for each job but because they do exactly the same as us ours should suffice.
I have the NGC but it is little help where this is concerned.
links to legislation and official acops would be appreciated because I need to present this to the directors. I'll take a stab at this. If it's a different legal entity, it could be a bit more tricky as in the first instance the main person responsible for that legal entity would be the first port of call whether it is for financial matters or any other legal matters. However, it would be in the franchisor's best interests to ensure that their franchisee's adhere to relevant standards which should be outlined in the contract agreement between the parties - there are risks to the brand name and reputation as the public/or potential clients may not differentiate between the different entities. Could you cascade your H&S policies and procedures down to franchisees? In theory yes, but given they are a seperate legal entity, they would need to review for adequacy and adopt. If they fail to do so, and this outlined appropriately in the franchise agreements, they could risk losing the franchise, so it would be in their best interests to do so. The franchise agreement might detail the need for the franchisee to appoint a specific source of competent H&S advice i.e. yourself from the franchisor/head office
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Let’s start with the Public Liability responsibilities i.e. liability to third parties: I presume that these people are installing a product supplied by you? And that the customer agrees a contract for supply and fit. It won’t matter if it is one of your own employees or a franchise worker – if they cause damage to the customer’s property/premises then you’ll be liable to pay any claim.
Turning to the liability for an accident/injury to one of the franchise workers: Presumably the method of work is defined by you. What lengths to you go to in establishing the knowledge/expertise of the franchise company? Do you require them to hold suitable and sufficient insurance and to indemnify you in the event of any cliam made agisnt you? Do you give them any “steer” as to what you expect of these self employed workers? How do you ensure that the franchise workers are suitably “gas trained”? In the absence of any answers it is almost impossible to provide a clear answer. But what looks pretty clear is that you are likely to be regarded as the ultimate employer if a franchise worker is injured. OK, there may be a degree of contributory negligence but you/your insurer will still have to handle the claim and incur expense/cost. And, of course, even if you thought that it was the franchise company that was at fault can you guarantee they won’t “fold” in the event of a claim? That would leave you holding the baby. You comment that you employ your own workers carrying out the same work. I think that would be viewed by a court as meaning that you knew what work was being done, the risk, the precautions etc. If I were advising a claimant I’d recommend suing everyone in sight! All of this leaves me to say: Why wouldn’t you treat them as employees and take the same care of them as of your own direct employees? Legislation/Case Law: I can’t really comment on the former but suffice to say there are many compensation claims that involve lengthy chains of contractors and sub-contractors, cases where firms in the chain go bust etc etc. Regard yourself as their employer and act accordingly Phil
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Any damage to property or product is paid/rectified by us but charged to the franchise owner if it is their fault under the franchise contract, they in turn charge the employee or their insurance if they have it (being self employed) so public liability is not an issue.
All franchise employees are trained internally and only allowed to do installations if they are trained and signed off, unless we are pushed in which case anyone with a spanner can do the job, all gas engineers are gas safe registered.
We use franchises to reduce liability, I am tasked with convincing senior management and directors that we are still liable for the health and safety of the franchise staff.
I remember reading somewhere (maybe in NGC course notes) that a well know DIY store was prosecuted when their appointed contractor was using unsafe working practices when working on their roof, i believe both companies were fined, is this likely to be the same with franchisees?
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The company I work for operates by company owned and operated sites and company owned but franchised operated sites.
In our instance my company takes responsibility for HSE for our Franchise site employees (i.e. employees of the franchisee not my company) - this is mainly due to the fact that franchise sites adopt and follow the same safety management system (including training / risk assessing etc.) as we have for our company operated sites.
We develop the system, we are responsible for it's adequacy. We also have suitable monitoring systems in place to alert us to the fact that a Franchisee is not following our systems, and therefore in the event an accident / injury occurred due to the Franchisee not following our system they would bear the responsibility (i.e. we have done all that is reasonably to ensure they have the available tools and we have reasonably assurances they are following them).
If we have no control of the Franchise sites then I guess the responsibility would be less so, but then it wouldn't be a Franchise if the sites were completely different!
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Assuming I have read your thread correctly, I would say that the franchise staff should be treated exactly the same as your own employees as the liability remains the same. There are a number of grey areas here, but the overriding principle is the 'master servant relationship'. See below for further authoritative guidance. http://www.hse.gov.uk/en...tion/status-contract.htm
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Franchised operations generally adopt the same processes and procedures as the "head office", thus probably establishing a master/servant relationship as Ray states. You train the people and authorise them to work (spanner owners excepted) and any failure in your training system will be traced back to you.
Whilst the employer would have primary liability for any harm caused by or to their employees it is entirely foreseeable that the "head office" organisation could be hit by sizeable civil liability claims as well as criminal charges.
There will still be public liability exposure if the franchisee's insurances are inadequate or ineffective.
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Franchises operate differently.So it will depend on the contract held with the franchise on who is responsible for what. Franchises are generally a separate legal entity.
However,you cannot compare a franchise to a contractor. Different set up.A contractor is bought into to do specific task whereas a franchise has bought the rights to a trade under a trade name, usually in a set geographical area, with restrictions / requirements etc.
Are you worried about your criminal liability or your civil liability, as that would change things? Certainly criminal liability would mean each scenario would be taken in it's own right as to where the failings lay.
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