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PH2  
#1 Posted : 03 December 2013 14:53:15(UTC)
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PH2

I am surprised that there has not been a thread on this. My thoughts go out to those who were bereaved, injured or otherwise affected by this tragic accident. Those involved in rescue and recovery have an unenviable job.

PH2
Clairel  
#2 Posted : 03 December 2013 15:29:17(UTC)
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Clairel

What is there to say?

It's tragic. The facts aren't known. We're not allowed to speculate on this forum and we are not allowed to have 'chat' threads on this forum either (unfortunately - I keep asking).
JJ Prendergast  
#3 Posted : 03 December 2013 16:33:16(UTC)
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JJ Prendergast

I just wonder if this had been a motorway crash with a minibus etc and killed the same number of people - would it have been wall to wall tv news all weekend?


Now and again flying machines don't work properly - all part of the risk. Sad but true

chris42  
#4 Posted : 03 December 2013 16:33:46(UTC)
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chris42

As Clairel said and echo PH2's thoughts to the bereaved.

I did however wonder about the safety of the fire crew stood on the roof of a building that had a helicopter in it. This was on the news several hours after the event and the helicopter had a tarp over it. They didn't seem to be actually doing anything just milling about on the roof, with no purpose. The thing that struck me was that someone from the fire brigade was talking about the structural issues the building now had, while showing these pictures.

Not having a go, I'm sure there was good reason for them to be on there and someone had assessed it was appropriate, just looked a bit odd.





sutty  
#5 Posted : 03 December 2013 17:27:24(UTC)
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sutty

JJ Prendergast wrote:
I just wonder if this had been a motorway crash with a minibus etc and killed the same number of people - would it have been wall to wall tv news all weekend?


Now and again flying machines don't work properly - all part of the risk. Sad but true




I'm fairly sure that had a car crashed into a pub, club, shop, bus queue or any other mass of people and there had been so many deaths it would have been wall to wall coverage.
alexmccreadie13  
#6 Posted : 03 December 2013 18:00:38(UTC)
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alexmccreadie13

People died here that is why this post should be locked out.

We are not in a position to speculate or decide why the emergency services should be where they were.

Families are grieving and we should respect that.

Sorry folks my opinion.
Corfield35303  
#7 Posted : 04 December 2013 15:43:59(UTC)
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Corfield35303

Without commenting on the particulars of this tragic incident.

An interesting and marked difference between this incident and say the rail acident in Spain is the difference in the level of press speculation and morbid facination by the media.

Although the coverage was significant, the UK media seem to be better behaved in this respect. Following some accidents abroad there is a lurid 'trial by media' almost as soon as the dust settles.
Clairel  
#8 Posted : 04 December 2013 15:54:22(UTC)
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Clairel

alexmccreadie13 wrote:
People died here that is why this post should be locked out.



People die at work and in their home life everyday. What does it achieve by not discussing how it could be prevented? There is no respect in that. Better to discuss it than to brush it under the carpet. No one is being disrespectful.


alexmccreadie13  
#9 Posted : 04 December 2013 16:53:58(UTC)
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alexmccreadie13

Clairl you especially should know you cant discuss and prevent something happening if you do not have the faintest idea apart from speculation what caused the incident.

That is why threads like this should be locked out.

And in case you missed it In My Opinion.

Ta Alex
Clairel  
#10 Posted : 04 December 2013 16:57:45(UTC)
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Clairel

And if you read my first post then you will see that I said we don't have the facts enough to discuss this case yet.

However, to suggest it should be locked because people have died (which is specifically what you said) is misguided.
alexmccreadie13  
#11 Posted : 04 December 2013 17:12:02(UTC)
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alexmccreadie13

Clairl

You are renowned for your ability and knowledge therefore please drop this as I have made a statement and I will stick with it especially by ignoring further posts on this subject.

Ta Alex
Zimmy  
#12 Posted : 04 December 2013 19:12:36(UTC)
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Zimmy

I respect Clairel's judgment as a rule, and this post is no exception.

johnmurray  
#13 Posted : 07 December 2013 11:17:21(UTC)
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johnmurray

Interesting:

¨The call came as it emerged a helicopter leasing company grounded its fleet of Eurocopter EC135’s in April last year, after a crack was discovered in one aircraft’s rotor shaft¨

¨However, after receiving a safety information notice, which said that cracks had been found in several other EC135 helicopters, Bond Air Services then decided as a safety measure to ground temporarily all of its EC135 helicopters¨

http://www.tuc.org.uk/wo...er-2013#new%20helicopter
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