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I have been asked if the following is RIDDOR or classed as an RTI!
A 6m steel tube falling of a vehicle on a country lane!!! The load has been secured but one piece was not as secure as the others on the vehicle.
My initial thoughts would be to report it, but after reviewing the regs I cannot really see if you would have too.
Anyone got any thoughts on this???
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Mark James wrote:I have been asked if the following is RIDDOR or classed as an RTI!
A 6m steel tube falling of a vehicle on a country lane!!! The load has been secured but one piece was not as secure as the others on the vehicle.
My initial thoughts would be to report it, but after reviewing the regs I cannot really see if you would have too.
Anyone got any thoughts on this??? Cannot see anything on RIDDOR which would be related to such an incident. Even with regards to an RTI, what is your companies definition of an RTI and what does it stand for? i.e. does it stand for Road Traffic Incident or Injury? If injury then this does not meet that reporting criteria. We would report this, on the information available, a near miss and investigate.
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I dealt with a similar issue several years ago, wearing my quality hat, when working for a packaging company.
A customer complained that our packaging had failed in transit, blamed us and wanted us to pick up all costs. The vehicle was transporting 20 bulk containers 1.2L x 1.2W x 1.8H each containing 1 ton of plastic pellets.
Their driver was pulled over by the police on the M1 as his 40ft artic was leaving a trail of plastic beads along the motorway. He had travelled less than 5 miles from their factory. Once on the hard shoulder the driver opened the back doors to show the police his load, only for the best part of 3/4 of a ton of plastic pellets to pour onto the hard shoulder as the doors opened.
The driver was given a fixed penalty notice, (fine and points), for having an unsafe load and the company were billed several thousands of pounds for the pellets to be cleared away, (lanes closed and roadsweeper used).
The customer sent us the police photos as evidence. When we studied them, they clearly showed the timber pallet under the failed bulk bin had been smashed to pieces, more than likely caused by the fork lift driver trying to ram into the space at the back of the trailer by the doors. They showed that the contents had escaped the bulk container where it should have been supported by a pallet. Which the customer reluctantly accepted.
Therefore, the incident you describe is not reportable, but could have ended up with the driver receiving a fixed penalty or being prosecuted for having an unsafe load. Had the unsafe load caused an accident or injury, then it would be a very different situation.
I would investigate and record the incident, (not report it) and one of the outputs would be to use this in brief/communication as an example as to why drivers must ensure that that there loads are safe before they take them on the highway.
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This is not a RIDDOR incident but would be a road traffic related incident.
Load Security is a targeted concern with my organisation and if the driver were pulled over at a road check it would result in he drivber and the company being reported to for an insecure load. This could result in a fixed penalty fine or even being reported to the Traffic Commissioner. Both The Police and DVSA have the powers to deal with insecure loads on vehicles.
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