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paul-ps  
#1 Posted : 19 February 2014 15:44:01(UTC)
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paul-ps

Hi, can anyone recommend a good UK supplier of safety footwear, suitable for persons with diabetes or other conditions which affect their feet?
Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 19 February 2014 16:58:10(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Have an employee with diabetes who takes a stock item from a large national supplier of safety equipment - based on their condition it is a reasonable adjustment to allow them to choose something not on the "in house list" as it is £** above the price ceiling.

A personal friend with the condition also chooses the same footwear but his employer has no pricing restrictions.

Both enjoy a German doctor's design made in Britain
Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 19 February 2014 16:58:10(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Have an employee with diabetes who takes a stock item from a large national supplier of safety equipment - based on their condition it is a reasonable adjustment to allow them to choose something not on the "in house list" as it is £** above the price ceiling.

A personal friend with the condition also chooses the same footwear but his employer has no pricing restrictions.

Both enjoy a German doctor's design made in Britain
LARRYL  
#4 Posted : 19 February 2014 17:01:16(UTC)
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LARRYL

We have an employee with a similar condition who ended up in hospital with serious foot issues a couple of years back, we used our local safety supply company and advised them of the issues, they brought a few pairs in for him to try, he found a pair that were suitable but they were around £70 or £80 per pair.
Frank Hallett  
#5 Posted : 19 February 2014 17:41:42(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

It's really good to see such responsible employers ensuring that the "reasonable adjustment" concept is so well incorporated in the way of working - and I'm definitely not being sarcastic!

I do worry about the comment made by roundtuit re the cost; and also Larryl - and I really hope that I've misunderstood what was being said.

The requirements of HSWA Sect 9 to not levy any charge on an employee for "things" done in the pursuit of H&S would appear to be comprehensively breached here. It is simply unlawful to impose any maximum amount that could either force an employee to accept inferior [in this case] PPE; or that may cause them to have to pay any difference for the essential minimum standard that works for them.

Please tell me I've misunderstood.

Frank Hallett
Canopener  
#6 Posted : 19 February 2014 19:04:02(UTC)
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Canopener

paul-ps wrote:
Hi, can anyone recommend a good UK supplier of safety footwear, suitable for persons with diabetes or other conditions which affect their feet?


Take your pick.

I suffer from diabetes. None of my other footwear, shoes, wellies, walking boots, trainers, slippers, you name it, are 'special'. I also wear safety footwear 'from stock', no problems whatsoever. That someone 'merely' suffers from diabetes does not NECESSARILY make a case for 'special' footwear. Like others, they will need comfortable footwear.

I think you may have it wrong Frank, I don't think that the person was being charged extra.
firesafety101  
#7 Posted : 19 February 2014 19:20:45(UTC)
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firesafety101

My whole family suffer diabetes and none wear "special" footwear.

Every person should look after their own feet with good hygiene standards, washing, drying, etc. etc.

OK safety footwear has to be issued and it has to be right for the individual but is anyone suggesting here that some safety shoes are not made for people to wear SAFELY?

If an employee was to bring in a note from their GP or Diabetic Nurse then special consideration should be given but otherwise normal footwear should be OK.

Unless as Frank suggests there are restrictions on the cost.
kevkel  
#8 Posted : 20 February 2014 08:51:29(UTC)
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kevkel

UVEX are very good in my experience.
Kevin
paul-ps  
#9 Posted : 20 February 2014 08:56:35(UTC)
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paul-ps

Employees with diabetes and other foot concerns have experienced problems with obtaining comfortable standard footwear. I just wondered if anyone had used a brand or style that proved suitable?
paul-ps  
#10 Posted : 20 February 2014 08:57:54(UTC)
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paul-ps

kevkel wrote:
UVEX are very good in my experience.
Kevin


Thanks. I am looking at UVEX.
paul-ps  
#11 Posted : 20 February 2014 08:59:07(UTC)
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paul-ps

FireSafety101 wrote:
My whole family suffer diabetes and none wear "special" footwear.

Unless as Frank suggests there are restrictions on the cost.


No, cost is not an issue.
LARRYL  
#12 Posted : 20 February 2014 11:03:13(UTC)
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LARRYL

I do worry about the comment made by roundtuit re the cost; and also Larryl - and I really hope that I've misunderstood what was being said.

No cost issue with us either, just relaying the facts.
Frank Hallett  
#13 Posted : 20 February 2014 12:22:30(UTC)
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Frank Hallett

Okey Dokey then roundtuit & LarryL - that's answered that question.

Therefore no problem in that area of compliance.

Frank Hallett
colinreeves  
#14 Posted : 20 February 2014 13:49:02(UTC)
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colinreeves

Canopener wrote:

I suffer from diabetes. None of my other footwear, shoes, wellies, walking boots, trainers, slippers, you name it, are 'special'. I also wear safety footwear 'from stock', no problems whatsoever. That someone 'merely' suffers from diabetes does not NECESSARILY make a case for 'special' footwear. Like others, they will need comfortable footwear.


Canopener has it right. Most people with diabetes do not suffer from foot problems at first. However after a number of years, especialy if BG levels are not well controlled, problems can arise.

The most important thing to do is liaise with the individual and to get the advice of their medical practioner or occupational heath doctor to ascertain the actual needs of the individual.

In most cases any well fitting footwear will be suitable, as it is for the population as a whole.
Roundtuit  
#15 Posted : 22 February 2014 14:22:20(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Paul,

both my friend and my colleague prefer the Dr Martens Chelsea style safety boot due to its lighter weight, cushion sole etc.. most suppliers are happy to bring around a range of sample footwear to fit a given choice criteria.

In respect of my comment regarding the additional £** H&S will always be a cost to any business and expenditure needs justification as we do not live in a utopian "money no object world". Similar cost discussions have appeared on this forum regarding other H&S / PPE commonly safety spectacles and DSE glasses.

We have a budget derived price point in the suppliers median of up to £60 per pair per employee per issue which provides a wide range of style choices for general protective footwear - the DM's are above this price point but as Frank surmised for a single employee this additional spend is a reasonable adjustment.
Roundtuit  
#16 Posted : 22 February 2014 14:22:20(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Paul,

both my friend and my colleague prefer the Dr Martens Chelsea style safety boot due to its lighter weight, cushion sole etc.. most suppliers are happy to bring around a range of sample footwear to fit a given choice criteria.

In respect of my comment regarding the additional £** H&S will always be a cost to any business and expenditure needs justification as we do not live in a utopian "money no object world". Similar cost discussions have appeared on this forum regarding other H&S / PPE commonly safety spectacles and DSE glasses.

We have a budget derived price point in the suppliers median of up to £60 per pair per employee per issue which provides a wide range of style choices for general protective footwear - the DM's are above this price point but as Frank surmised for a single employee this additional spend is a reasonable adjustment.
chris42  
#17 Posted : 22 February 2014 18:29:03(UTC)
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chris42

I have diabetes and wear the standard off the shelf safety shoes. When I was first diagnosed they told me to wear shoes that had plenty of room for my toes, so the shoe would not rub. Steel toe caps always have lots of room, so personally never had a problem.

It is good that these things are considered though.

Chris
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