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ODonnell19538  
#1 Posted : 26 February 2014 10:07:21(UTC)
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ODonnell19538

I would be interested to hear the views of others who may have experience of poor refurbishment/demolition surveys carried out by UKAS accredited inspection bodies.

For information, the survey in question here was carried out in part of a 1960s building in advance of ongoing refurbishment work that includes internal upgrading, along with window and external cladding replacement. Licensed asbestos removal contractors working in the building have highlighted residual material present on the majority of roof sheeting fixing bolts attached to steelwork within suspended ceiling voids, none of which was picked up in the survey. The residual material has been tested and confirmed to contain amosite fibres. Background air test results conducted since the discovery have been below acceptable limits.

The area was subject to previous clean-up works during the 1990s to remove sprayed asbestos insulation from steelwork. However, this was known to have been done to a poor standard and there was an expectation that the recent survey would identify all leftover residual materials.

Given the likely significance of additional project costs attributable to survey omissions, not to mention the potential exposure to asbestos fibres of contractors’ personnel working in areas which were supposedly clear of ACMs, what course of redress / other action is recommended?



paulw71  
#2 Posted : 26 February 2014 11:27:20(UTC)
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paulw71

Hi

Was the scope of the survey agreed in advance. If it was agreed in advance that the surveyors should sample materials in this area and access was physically possible then I would assume you would have legal recourse as they have not fulfilled the terms of their contract.

Paragraphs 57 and 58 of HSG 264 may assist you in establishing whether the failure was on the part of the surveyor or the dutyholder when it came to organising and undertaking the survey. For example, where any restrictions put on the surveyors with regards to accessing certain areas.

Did the survey report they produced contain any caveats regarding any areas they where unable to access for whatever reason, and a recomendation these areas be re-visited when access was possible ?


Regards

peter gotch  
#3 Posted : 26 February 2014 12:47:03(UTC)
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peter gotch

It's all about writing specification for the contract that makes it very clear that in general caveats will not be tolerated.

If they need a tower scaffold to get up to the roofspace, so be it.

If they need a locksmith to gain access, so be it.

If they need an electrician to isolate the power so they can survey inside e.g. switch boxes, so be it.
paulw71  
#4 Posted : 26 February 2014 13:04:22(UTC)
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paulw71

peter gotch wrote:
It's all about writing specification for the contract that makes it very clear that in general caveats will not be tolerated.

If they need a tower scaffold to get up to the roofspace, so be it.

If they need a locksmith to gain access, so be it.

If they need an electrician to isolate the power so they can survey inside e.g. switch boxes, so be it.


Peter

Agree 100%. Then these situations would not arise as frequently as they do.

Regards
peter gotch  
#5 Posted : 27 February 2014 13:30:34(UTC)
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peter gotch

...and, Paul, in my own personal experience for over 30 years!
ODonnell19538  
#6 Posted : 04 March 2014 07:29:55(UTC)
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ODonnell19538

Paul, Peter
Many thanks for your thoughts. After looking into the situation further, there were, as you both surmised, considerable gaps in the instruction to the surveying company, reinforcing the requirement for a clearly written statement of requirement/specification in future contracts.

Regards

Danny
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