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Hi,
I was wondering who pays for your membership to IOSH?
Your employer or you?
Zan
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My employer pays mine, always has done.
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I pay then claim the full cost back through expenses, as per my contract and company policy on membership of a (single) professional body,
Jim
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My Employer did a few years but I have to pay myself now. Bit expensive now as I have two other subscriptions.
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Used to be my employer in a previous life..........now, my current employer makes use of my IOSH membership but doesn't pay.......................thinking of moving on.
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My employer pays my safety, fire and risk. I pay environment. Safety, fire safety and many aspects of risk are all in my role. Not environment.
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I would have thought any company taking Health&Safety seriously, would pay subscriptions of their H&S
Manager/Representative.
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My Company pay for my membership, my last employer wouldn't that was one of the reasons why I left them!
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Employer used to pay IOSH and Ergonomics Society Membership but stopped both about 3 years ago so now I pay both (over £300 a year on a part-time wage).
Seriously thinking of dropping one of them (Ergo Soc) as really can't justify the expense as can't attend any of the conferences (too expensive as normally down south) and only skim read the newsletter when it arrives. Also hate being forced into taking a journal I do not wish nor need! Have paid this year as it's a direct debit but going to cancel it for next.
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Pay it through my ltd company, I too hate being forced to take the journal. I'd happily pay less £ to take the letters behind my name and drop the magazine (which btw does any other reader feel SHP has a massive overuse of exclamation marks when none are required?)
If the mag was dropped people might even be able to advertise for jobs on these threads.
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Melrose80086 wrote: Also hate being forced into taking a journal I do not wish nor need! Have paid this year as it's a direct debit but going to cancel it for next. If you are talking about SHP, renewed my IOSH membership a couple of days ago and there is now an option to receive just the electronic version for a saving. I ignored that as I am a luddite and hate reading on screen stuff, but the option is there.
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Before I retired I worked in the HE Sector and I think as was the case for many HE institutions the policy was not to pay any professional membership fees.
I did see the reasoning for that policy as many members of staff do belong to professional bodies and to pay all membership fees would be very expensive.
Where would the line be drawn?
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johnld wrote:Before I retired I worked in the HE Sector and I think as was the case for many HE institutions the policy was not to pay any professional membership fees.
I did see the reasoning for that policy as many members of staff do belong to professional bodies and to pay all membership fees would be very expensive.
Where would the line be drawn?
So you employer didn't care if you were qualified, kept upto date and did your CPD. That is what I'd call a false economy. Often its down to snobbery. Senior people ,for example in the education sector, the academics, had all of their subscriptions paid for but technical staff often were expected to stump up their own fees.
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I pay - my employer doesn't care if I'm in IOSH or not.
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I pay and put it through as business expenses - self employed.
I don't see having to pay for my own professional membership as reason for changing employer? If your employer doesn't require it then it is up to you, if employer does require then hand over the renewal when it comes in.
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Company as an expenses item.
Do agree on the digital magazine - tend not to skim articles any more and have a lot of unopened links in my inbox. Would call myself a Luddite but spend most of my work effort trying to kill hard copy in favour of digital for access purposes.
Anyone know if the digital issue can be sent in house the same way a hard copy could travel across desks? If not which copyright collection agency needs to be paid?
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Company as an expenses item.
Do agree on the digital magazine - tend not to skim articles any more and have a lot of unopened links in my inbox. Would call myself a Luddite but spend most of my work effort trying to kill hard copy in favour of digital for access purposes.
Anyone know if the digital issue can be sent in house the same way a hard copy could travel across desks? If not which copyright collection agency needs to be paid?
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Since joining IOSH in the mid-1980s I've always paid my own membership fees. My former employer classed membership of IOSH as a desirable rather than essential attribute for its professional OS&H advisers. Though this might seem to be a churlish stance, it's important to add that the same employer allowed/encouraged my colleagues and I to attend IOSH network meetings and events during working hours. The same applied to meetings and events run by other OS&H organisations such as regional construction safety groups. Furthermore, those of us who opted to be committee members with IOSH or other OS&H organisations, either locally or nationally, could attend meetings in work time. Our successive senior managers took the pragmatic view that attending/running professional meetings and events had various benefits for us as professionals, e.g. keeping up to date with developments, sharing solutions to common problems with other practitioners and maintaining CPD. In turn, the knowledge, experience and ability, etc. we gained was of considerable benefit to our employer. Therefore, neither I nor probably my colleagues ever considered changing jobs because our employer didn't pay our membership fees.
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I pay, I joined iosh for my benefit, not my employers. If being a member makes me more employable, that is a side benefit.
I don't understand those of you who think an employer should pay because they want you to continue your professional development. Does that mean you would not do it if your employer did not want it?
When I had my interview for my current job, I told my employer I was passionate about safety and worked hard at keeping my skills upto date.
I meant that, I take pride in my work, CPD was the driving factor for me joining iosh. It benefits me, so I will have no issue paying for it myself.
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The website quoted by Racer at #11 is intended for employers. It's worth adding that people who pay membership fees to professional bodies such as IOSH from their own pockets can apply to HMRC for tax relief on such fees. Furthermore, tax relief can be sought in respect of fees paid during the several years prior to the year of application. From time to time IOSH either tells or used to tell its members about these aspects. For details see http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/incometax/how-to-get.htmWhen I applied for tax relief on my fees some 20 years ago, it seemed to be granted with reasonable promptness. (As HMRC's arrangements might have changed, can anyone who has applied during the past year or so advise if they also found the process to be a smooth one?) HMRC is also prompt at cancelling such relief when appropriate as I found out soon after leaving my former employment and not taking up any subsequent work in OS&H.
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HS & fire pay for all areas personally. However others get their memberships paid by the same employer
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Trevor Hawkins - I select a hero daily - today you are my hero!
I made subscription to IOSH part of my terms and conditions of employment (remuneration package) seeing as my employer will benefit besides myself.
Not a lot to ask and every employer I have worked for has agreed.
Rich
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IOSH, IIRSM, APS, HSLA, GMB Union - all paid for out of own pocket. CSCS and CCNSG extra every 3-5 years
Nigh on £700.00 per year.
The high cost of doing business in this demoralising game.
Jon
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I pay my own IOSH & IFE membership Fees
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My employer allows one professional subscription so I pay myself and then claim the full cost back through expenses.
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Same as Decimomal - one Prof' subs allowed and claimed back - which I am still waiting for :-)
S
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Before I was made redundant my employer used to pay, my new employer won't pay, so I pay
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Some organisations (employers), use staff qualifications and membership to gain further work. If they do this then I believe they should pay for that membership. However, there are those that may believe that as they gain more work, the member stays employed. There are also those that don't ask for fear of losing their job. I asked when I started a new job and they were happy to pay. But and a big but. I am still waiting after 2 weeks in the job. Have a great weekend everybody
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Another aspect to consider is that the IOSH membership fees are, I understand, somewhat lower than those of various other professional bodies. I've skimmed through the websites of a few other such bodies but couldn't readily find details of their membership fees. Also, even if I could, such details might mean little without related information such as each body's membership figures and what sorts of services are provided for their members. However, one common requirement of professional bodies is for their qualified members to maintain a prescribed level of Continuing Professional Development (CPD). Perhaps other bodies also have open or closed forums in which topics such as membership fees and who pays them are hotly discussed! :-)
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don't forget to claim your costs back from the tax man
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bob youel wrote:don't forget to claim your costs back from the tax man Quick question - how much do you get back roughly (as I've a few years to claim for both IOSH and Ergo Soc memberships)? Thanks
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Depends on your own residual tax rate. Thus for a CMIOSH paying £140 and earning below the Higher Tax rate the saving will be 20% of £140. If paying tax at 40% the saving is 40% of £140.
For the very few in this profession earning in excess of £150,000 the saving is 45%.
The full fees are treated as an allowance before tax is calculated.
Hope that makes sense. If not, speak to a tax specialist!
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Thanks - thought that was the case but wanted to check. Claim for 2011 to date for both IOSH and Ergo Soc going to be submitted I think so should be a few quid back...
Work in public sector organisation so NO chance of earning over £150,000 lol!!
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A previous employer used to pay, but the method used became an utter faff, such that it wouldn't get signed off and the due date would lapse. It happened to a report of mine for whom I raised a PO. Not wishing that to happen to myself, it was just easier to pay for it myself so that membership continued without hassle.
I tend to agree with Trevor as to the reasons why you should pay for it yourself, despite the obvious benefits to an employer. Although that didn't stop a senior manager (an accountant, unsurprisingly and the one signing off the PO) asking me what benefit it had for the business. I guess he had no problem signing off his membership of whatever bean-counter association that ruins industry on a regular basis. They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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I have always paid my own membership and as I work overseas now the companies I work for do not care whether I am a member or not. It only seems to be agencies that require membership but once you get the job you find out the employer doesn't care only that you have the skills, experience and qualifications. Membership is like insurance at times, you don't want to pay for it, but when you need you are glad you did.
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I pay for my own membership. However my employer does pay the subscription to the local (Swansea) safety group. They also give me paid time off to attend any IOSH and Swansea safety group meetings and seminars that I want to attend. More often than not I'll also take somebody along with me depending on the topic e.g. Safety rep, engineer, apprentice, again paid time off.
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