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Hi all,
Does anyone know of any good software that can be used to support a H&S management system?
I'm ideally looking for something that can handle data for accidents, absence, near misses, training records, etc, and produce reports on this. I'd also like something that I can integrate our audits and performance management/measurement systems into. Basically having everything in one place!
Thanks,
Nic
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I work for a charity who wanted something similar. We laid down what we wanted and then went out to tender to find an IT company who could design and deliver. W
We found one and in a few months we will have an all singing all dancing integrated system which can produce reports in respect of fields chosen (includes everything Nic78 has mentioned above + more besides). It has cost a few thousand but once the teething troubles are over it will be a fantastic aid to our H&S Management system (Note the use of the word "aid"
Rich
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I don't know how computer savvy you are - however this is very achievable in Excel or Access, with reports being generated/exported to Word from the chosen application (or by the application as well). It just takes time to do - and some knowledge to be fair, but not a huge amount. Yes you can get fully integrated packages like Rich777, however as he says this is expensive. If you do not already know this software, go with Excel and Word to start and play with hyperlinks in a word generated report with totals and graph images etc linked to Excel. As an aside I have a link to Groupon which often offers online Excel training for £20-50 - or office training for a bit more. Just a thought....
There are also loads of clips on youtube on Excel functions to learn from. Cant say for Access as haven't looked. Rich777's solution may be an bespoke programme or it could be an Access/Excel based platform.
I also totally agree with Rich777, any such programme is an aid to reporting and performance results, it will not manage your H&S for you. Doing it yourself gives you total control dont forget
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Hi
The company I work for has had a go at this in the past and the experience was not a happy one. It felt as if the software company wanted us to write the package for them. After about 18 months we gave up and cancelled the contract.
I was not directly involved but it seems to me that there should be an off the shelf vanilla package that would do the job to get you started then once you're running you can have some minor tweaks added to suit your particular situation. I don't see that the requirements of different businesses should be fundamentally all that different.
It seems that getting reports out is still a challenge with the simpler package we're using now.
My simplistic view is that putting the data in should be quick and easy, it isn't (get a 70 year old lady to try it out first); then getting lots of different reports out should not require lots of time, effort and what's worse the expense of having the software supplier charge you for the code that they then sell to another buyer.
I've often thought there's a niche here for someone with some Excel skills to develop a package. Maybe something to do when I retire...
Good luck with your hunt.
Graham
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Off the shelf programmes generally do not do the job as its "workflow" is not as per your specific processes/procedures.
The "better" providers of health & SAfety Management software will highlight this aspect at the outset. Also, the client needs to ensure that the processes are as simple as practicable, otherwise it will be the case of rubbish in/rubbish out.
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I have looked into this in the past. Sadly off the shelf packages invariably don't do all you want and in house developed will take up lots of time. Also when you do it in house to the spec everyone agrees on, once complete you realise that is not what you wanted.
I would still prefer inhouse, that way I can make it do what I want.
I was once given a demonstration of an off the shelf package, where they proudly said you can record RIDDOR accidents and send of the output to HSE. Then there was a blank expression when I asked about Dangerous occurrences and Diseases.
I would probably go with some sort of access type database -but I can use that.
You Really Really need to decide what you want to get from it and what you are willing to record (in detail), before looking.
Chris
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Nic
I have been using SHE Software for about 5 years, very good and just been updated and improved further. I can send you their recent brochure as they are currently trying to sell me the new improved product!
If you want this PM me with your email.
Jonty
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This has been discussed many times in the past so may be worth a forum search. There are many different systems out there and a range of costs. Last year we went on the search and discovered there was no way we could afford perfect and exactly what I would want (probably wasn't out there) but there was a good cost effective alternative. We are still implementing it and most issues are our doing - not the system. To make an effective choice you need to be really sure of what you want - must and nice to haves - how you want to manage the system - our issue was that I wanted everyone to be able to write risk assessments and this would in general be cost prohibitive for licence fees - what you want the system to produce and manage. We are happy with the system that we procured - there are frustrations but anyone can write risk assessments, there are excellent reporting tools or work rounds and the support has been excellent from the company. It is Health+safety from Effective. PM me if you want more information.
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Like most people have said, these systems can be good but they can also be a white elephant. We have looked various systems but have been put off by both the cost and the fact they are not suitable for what we do, being on the whole designed for a commercial factory or straight forward office environment(we run a research lab) . Other similar labs have adopted this stuff and seem to be happy with it but have spent a lot of time and money adapting what was offered to fulfil their specific requirements. One of my concerns is that once you have the system you are locked into a set of procedures and policies which you have to follow even though they might turn out to be inappropriate ( the tail wagging the dog springs to mind)
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Hi all,
Thanks for your comments on this. We have a really good in house development team so it could be that we could go down that route but I'm meeting with our Operations Director to discuss and review this to get his opinion before we go any further.
Nic :)
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