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fscott  
#1 Posted : 28 April 2014 09:59:21(UTC)
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fscott

I am in the process of implementing a QMS to meet the requirements of the Construction Products Regulations and I am looking at welder's qualifications. I am aware that welder's qualifications (Codings) require re-validation to confirm that they have worked within the scope of the qualification every 6 months in order to remain valid but my query is can the validation be carried out by anyone within the organisation with appropriate knowledge/experience or does it have to be carried out by the Responsible Welding Coordinator?
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 28 April 2014 11:51:46(UTC)
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bob youel

The insurance (Vulcan etc. in my day) company should hold records and these can be verified by an appropriate person* [*this should answer your question?] and thereafter the individuals day to day production records can be used to verify working and quality history againg checked via an appropriate person a 6 monthly test is only where specific work has not be undertaken for 6 months - a welder need never to take a specific coded test again in their lives providing that they are continually undertaking the work to the appropriate standards as an ongoing thing
boblewis  
#3 Posted : 28 April 2014 11:57:59(UTC)
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boblewis

Bob Y is precisely right and as an auditor I would be looking for a competent person to undertake any re validations required. You really need to bring the welders into the loop and make tham more active in identifying types of work they are not performing. If these are tasks you do not require then there is no worry simply record in your QMS that these welding tasks are not required. You should however be establishing some set of arrangements to ensure ongoing competence in the required tasks is maintained. This should mean self monitoring by both the individual welders and their management line. Bob
fscott  
#4 Posted : 28 April 2014 12:16:29(UTC)
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fscott

Thanks guys. I thought that this was the case but good to be able to double check with others in the know as I'm still very much learning about this area.
David Borland  
#5 Posted : 28 April 2014 13:39:29(UTC)
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David Borland

If you are going for EN 1090-1 certification it might be a good idea (assuming you don't already have) to get access to the appropriate welding standards either hard copy or via an on-line subscription which may be cancelled at later date. A lot easier if it's in black and white and in front of you I find. The rules for prolongations (as opposed to validations) are explicitily stated and not difficult to interpret. All the best with the project.
fscott  
#6 Posted : 28 April 2014 14:33:02(UTC)
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fscott

Hi David, We are going for 1090-1 and I have the standards relating to the relevant welder qualifications just wanted to make sure I was interpreting them correctly as I've never dealt with welder qualifications before. Our guys are all time served welders but never been coded as the industries we work in have never required it but with CPR coming in we will have to go down that route.
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