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The Govt seem intent on doing away with the intervention of Courts within the Justice system; FFI being one such scheme.
Should we cut out the middle man so HSE EA POLICE can get on fully with the role of punishment because "If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide" ?
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We could simply have votes by the public of the guilt or otherwise of some "crimes" such as Bankers etc. I am sure big business would want the chance for the courts to intervene then.:-)
Also II think the Death Penalty issue would rear its head again.
Any intervention and exclusion of the courts is fraught with extreme risks.
Bob
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The use of administrative fines (which is what this is) is popular in some areas. An article (in SHP http://www.shponline.co....fety-systems-workin-usa- ) about the way H&S works in the US states that this this is the way most fines are done over there. A caveat is that there tends to be a negotiation process involved and the regulator will go for the best financial deal not necessarily the most appropriate deal. This means that the typical pay out in the States is just $800 (£495), with $19,000 (£11,800) for repeat violations, and $30,000 (£18,600) for investigations associated with a fatality across the board as compared with £19 000 being the typical H&S fine levied by the courts in the UK for H&S offences and £100 000 being the recommended level for a fine if a fatality occurs.
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