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Hamm  
#1 Posted : 04 June 2014 17:37:04(UTC)
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Hamm



Has anyone had these fitted in their workplace and as a result of limited usage [once in 7years] had them or considered having them decommisioned.I would welcome any comments.Thanks
Carol B  
#2 Posted : 05 June 2014 12:45:28(UTC)
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Carol B

Over the years Stannah have made a variety of types of lift, passenger, goods, food, stair lifts etc. Can you clarify which type you are talking about
score  
#3 Posted : 05 June 2014 15:45:41(UTC)
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Hamm by decommissioned do you mean taken out completely, or just turned off?
As Carol says Stannah are a well known company, are you still paying for the lift to be serviced etc...?
Can you please provide more information
Hamm  
#4 Posted : 05 June 2014 17:18:38(UTC)
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Hamm


It is a passenger platform lift no longer serviced by Stannah but an alternative provider.Due to its low usage and some expensive repair bills in the past consideration is being given as to decommissioning it.I was enquiring as to whether anyone had done this in their workplace and if so were there any reprocutions / future issues. Thanks
Hamm  
#5 Posted : 05 June 2014 17:20:38(UTC)
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Hamm

Sorry score didnt answer your question.Disconnected from the electrical supply
Ian A-H  
#6 Posted : 05 June 2014 19:59:35(UTC)
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Ian  A-H

Hi Hamm

I'm assuming you are providing some form of service to the public, which is why you had the lift installed in the first place. The Equality Act (DDA as was) requires you do make reasonable adjustments to allow those with disabilities to access your service. If it's been used once in 7 years I'd say you were badly advised and sold something you didn't need. (Is there another way for people to access whatever it is your company does?)

As for simply disconnecting, I'd recommend complete removal - if it's still in situ and someone asks to use it you're open to a customer complaint at best and possibly (civil) legal action. I'd carry out a cost benefit appraisal, record your findings (were you to be challenged in the future), that will determine the way ahead.

That said, having just checked your posting, I see you are in education - if it's public sector you will have a Disability Equality Duty and must actively promote disability equality, including access. So it might need to stay...

boblewis  
#7 Posted : 05 June 2014 23:04:19(UTC)
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boblewis

Firstly we should remember that not only Stannah make such lifts and we should thus us generic language.

The real issue is that you have a disabled facility because it was assessed 7 years ago that one was required. To go away from this status and reduce access facilities for the disabled you will now need to demonstrate that suitable alternative facilities are available that are in the same approximate location, ie not the other side of a building.

I could construct an arguement that such a move may make it substantially more difficult for disabled persons than a none disabled person to access the building. Risk Assessing the issue is not the answer when facilities are present.

Really this question are part of a wider set of questions for safety practitioners with respect to disabled facilities.

Things like

- Accessible parking bays used for important visitors or staff for overflow parking,
- Allowing staff to use disbled toilets as additional facilities
- Signing disabled toilets as Male and Female and Disabled
- Making disabled toilets into cleaners cupboards and store rooms

etc etc

Bob
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#8 Posted : 06 June 2014 20:59:39(UTC)
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Hamm as other posters have said it depends on the use of the lift facility by disabled members of staff or public, however if the premises are not visited by clients and you have no disabled members of staff then I can see no reason why the lift can not be professionally decommissioned and left in situe in case it is required in the future. I have worked on major sites with over 100 lifts/escalators where this happened on a regular basis, please feel free to PM me if you wish to discuss further
boblewis  
#9 Posted : 07 June 2014 00:51:09(UTC)
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boblewis

I really think you should talk to the Building Control people before any such move. The fact that it can be fully isolated and left does NOT mean that it is right to do so. The equipment may take a long time to re commission after non use and what is the new disabled employee to do.
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