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Nigel Tycon  
#1 Posted : 22 July 2014 19:36:17(UTC)
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Nigel Tycon

Evening all, apologies if this has been covered elsewhere.
I visited one of our sites today and due to nocturnal visitors they have installed razor wire above a low (1.8m high) rear extension to prevent access to the main part of the warehouse.
My gut feeling is that the occupiers liability act places a duty of care on the owners which could see a potential claim if a burglar is injured.
Area - Bristol
Premises - Trade counter / Warehouse
Access - gated yard to the rear which is unlocked during operational hours
Height from ground - 1.8m
Length - approx 15m
I can find plenty of discussion and hearsay but nothing definitive.
Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
Invictus  
#2 Posted : 23 July 2014 08:05:55(UTC)
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Invictus

1.8 appears to be the minimum height. Plenty of warning signage around the fencing warning of the use of razor wire will also be required.
Martin Rudd  
#3 Posted : 23 July 2014 11:52:51(UTC)
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Martin Rudd

Results of Internet search I did some time ago. Info from suppliers websites.

"WARNING:
use of perimeter security products could obviously cause injury to unauthorised intruders, which could in turn have implications for the owners of the premises under the Occupiers Liability Act 1984.
Installation of any form of physical anti climb barrier at a height of less than 2 metres from the ground, may be illegal and in all cases display of appropriate warning signs may be a legal requirement.

Positioning of Warning Signs
It is generally accepted that warning signs should be displayed in such a way that a sign is visible from any angle of approach to the anti climb barrier. For straight linear installations, it is recommended that signs are displayed at approximately 3 metre intervals on the approach side of the protected boundary fence / wall.

Note: for some applications, or where the more aggressive anti climb spikes are installed, a higher minimum height restriction may apply

Triple point pallisade should not be installed below 1.8m but I thought razor wire was normally 2m.

See also BS 1722 Part: 10 Anti-Intruder Fences
Ron Hunter  
#4 Posted : 23 July 2014 14:50:53(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Too low methinks.

Check with local Community Police Support or your Insurers.
Horrible stuff, and not at all easy to install or maintain.
bob youel  
#5 Posted : 24 July 2014 08:09:41(UTC)
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bob youel

2.2m and above is the norm height I think (something to do with the average height of a man and their ability to accidently catch the wire) and the use of razor wire is seen as more hazardous than the use of day to day barbed wire so I would not put up RW unless there was no other option
HSSnail  
#6 Posted : 24 July 2014 08:43:20(UTC)
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HSSnail

Have you tried the anti climb paint? Not sure of its real name but the stuff that never dries fully. Can deter the casual intruder as they don't want to get pain all over their cloths. Don't think anything will keep out the professional intruder - if you put razor wire up they will just bring equipment to cut it.
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