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Gemstone008  
#1 Posted : 10 September 2014 08:47:48(UTC)
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Gemstone008

I have a shop and a contractor installing some equipment badly cut himself - I took him to hospital for treatment. If turns out to be Riddor (ie. over 7 day injury), who reports this? Me or the contractor's employer? Injury happened in my workplace and the contractor was at work
Animax01  
#2 Posted : 10 September 2014 08:55:46(UTC)
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Animax01

Hi Gemstone,

I would argue that unless the accident was of a direct result of something wrong with your workplace, something you supplied him with or because he was deviating from his standard practice because a request you had made, then it should be his employer. You have hired him in to do a job, you would expect/requested that he does it in a safe manner hopefully and he may even have supplied you with a risk assessment or a method statement?

Your duty should be to record the incident (file an accident form) and support his employer's investigation should they choose to do one.

I may be wrong, but this is how I see it based on the information that you have supplied.

Pete
Gemstone008  
#3 Posted : 10 September 2014 09:09:50(UTC)
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Gemstone008

Very helpful Animax01. Thank you.
DP  
#4 Posted : 10 September 2014 09:18:38(UTC)
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DP

His employer
achrn  
#5 Posted : 10 September 2014 09:33:31(UTC)
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achrn

When it happened to us (contractor installing a large pane of glass, using his own working methods and controls, pane broke and dropped, badly cutting one of the operatives on the way) we put a record in our accident book, and got confirmation from the contractor that they had recorded, investigated and reported the incident. That correspondence was then filed in our accident records.
Canopener  
#6 Posted : 10 September 2014 09:59:00(UTC)
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Canopener

I'll probably get berated for this, but hey! Even taking into account that we are all at different stages of our careers, and despite the resources available on the HSE website, I still can't help but feel that some people haven't taken the time to gain the most BASIC understanding of RIDDOR.

EMPLOYERS report for THEIR EMPLOYEES (the person in control of the site may record this, investigate it, report it to the employer yourself etc etc etc - but that is seprate from the RIDDOR duty to report)

The most basic of enquiries on the HSE website http://www.hse.gov.uk/ri...ould-report.htm#employer reveals (taaa daaa)

"If you are an employer, you must report any work-related deaths, and certain work-related injuries, cases of disease, and near misses involving your employees WHEREVER they are working.

If you are in control of premises, you must report any work-related deaths, certain injuries to members of the public and SELF-EMPLOYED people on your premises, and dangerous occurrences (some near miss incidents) that occur on your premises.

Caps used for emphasis (can we have a 'bold' button please?)
Palmer20061  
#7 Posted : 10 September 2014 10:24:03(UTC)
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Palmer20061

Unless it's in a quarry (or mine) where it's the operators responsibility to report, not the injured persons employer. (No idea why!)
Animax01  
#8 Posted : 10 September 2014 10:25:47(UTC)
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Animax01

Nicely put Canopener! No berating required here, just stating the facts.
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