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Our operations manager had a visit from a local compressor company to look at a system upgrade. The guy happened to notice that we had an air line in a production cell to blow out some tooling when cleaning down the line when changing over batches of work, which happens pretty frequently.
He mentioned that we should be restricting the pressure of this line owing to the danger of blowing into cuts in the skin and creating embolisms (a bit rare, surely, but a chance nevertheless) and said there was a legal requirement to restrict the pressure. I've scoured most of the regs you would probably associate with this (Compressed Air Regs, PSSR and associated ACoPs and guidance etc) and can't seem to find anything on this at all.
We currently do have a valve on the line to drop the pressure (you can still alter it if you really wanted) but I was wondering if we went to a restrictor, what the pressure should be? Surely there is a pressure at which skin wouldn't move when blown (for example), making it safe in this context? Or are there specific restrictors that are pre-set in terms of pressure, for this very purpose? Thoughts and advice most welcome!
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Swygart25604 wrote:Our operations manager had a visit from a local compressor company to look at a system upgrade. The guy happened to notice that we had an air line in a production cell to blow out some tooling when cleaning down the line when changing over batches of work, which happens pretty frequently.
He mentioned that we should be restricting the pressure of this line owing to the danger of blowing into cuts in the skin and creating embolisms (a bit rare, surely, but a chance nevertheless) and said there was a legal requirement to restrict the pressure. I've scoured most of the regs you would probably associate with this (Compressed Air Regs, PSSR and associated ACoPs and guidance etc) and can't seem to find anything on this at all.
We currently do have a valve on the line to drop the pressure (you can still alter it if you really wanted) but I was wondering if we went to a restrictor, what the pressure should be? Surely there is a pressure at which skin wouldn't move when blown (for example), making it safe in this context? Or are there specific restrictors that are pre-set in terms of pressure, for this very purpose? Thoughts and advice most welcome! No clue, so cant help, but this is something our guys do for blowing down construction surfaces, so would be intersted in finding out more. Did the guy not offer any supporting info to back up what he said? (obv not if you checked the regs)
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Taken from HSE Compressed Air Guide Step 104 http://books.hse.gov.uk/...alogueCode=9780717615315Blow guns consisting simply of a reduced orifice in direct line with the supply hose can be extremely dangerous, unless preceeded by a pre-set tamperproof pressure regulator set at a reduced pressure from the normal 80 psi airline supply. Models are available commercially which incorporate an air curtain designed to provide a protective shroud around the nozzle. Although Compressed air safety Page 25 of 50 Health and Safety Executive not completely safe, these designs significantly reduce the risk of eye injury and the dangers from close skin contact. If designed correctly such nozzles can often help to prevent the operator from being subjected to excessive noise. Because air is vented directly into the atmosphere, clean dry air is essential and lubricators should not be used. Blow guns can exhaust significant quantities of air and place extra loading on the compressor system. In view of this and the attendant risk arising from use of blow guns, their use should be considered carefully with a view to using alternative means for cleaning down machinery or components. Hope that helps
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This is a very normal one in the US on OSHA regs where the cleaning down pressure is kept below 30 psi. Unfortunately in some environments, such as ours, that would not clean swarf from products. I too have scoured all the documents pertaining to air pressure in the UK to see if this translates on this side of the pond and have not found anything. So I would say, yes, there is a legal requirement, but it exists in the US, not in the UK.
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Have you considered the alternative to blowing. There are compressed air operated guns that use the air to create a vacuum and suck up the material to be removed. If you PM me with your e-mail address I can provide you with more information on these. (I have no commercial interest in these guns.)
Chris
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Hi All,
In reply to your kind suggestions etc :
Hilary - I'd seen the US/Canadian requirements and they seem to vary slightly from state to state and I would agree that there does not seem to be a legal requirement in the UK. I thought I'd overlooked something, hence my post for greater knowledge or a better pair of eyes with which to read the regs etc!. Thanks for the confirmation!
Lawlee45239 - He didn't offer any justification and I wasn't there at the time, but I will surely be asking him to justify his statement when he comes back in (if we are going to be using them, that is)!
Salis - thanks for the reference and a useful lead. I note that no pressures are mentioned....
Chris - in the context of what we are doing, this idea would be of more benefit. I'll PM you as you suggest.
Thanks to all for your valued input.
Regards
Steve
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We have to recognise that USA Federal (OSHA) and State health & Safety legislation is mostly prescriptive, whereas our legisaltion is not that prescriptive. In my view, a suitable & sufficent risk assessment in the use of compressed air is most likley to conclude that if there is no alternative to the use of compresses air for "cleaning", then the "control measure" would be the use of properly designed "blow guns"
The hazard of effects of compressed air on skin is explicitly highligted in the HSE Guidance, as metioned by Salis from the HSE Guidance:-
"....................Blow guns consisting simply of a reduced orifice in direct line with the supply hose can be extremely dangerous, unless preceeded by a pre-set tamperproof pressure regulator set at a reduced pressure from the normal 80 psi airline supply. Models are available commercially which incorporate an air curtain designed to provide a protective shroud around the nozzle. Although not completely safe, these designs significantly reduce the risk of eye injury and the dangers from close skin contact..........."
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