You are unlikely to get many ( or even a few) responses the PAS is fairly recent and not well publicised, except in the Fire safety media/press. I have read somewhere that there already is a desire to make this PAS into a proper British Standards--and who knows, eventually an ISO one! It is claimed in the PAS and other publicity surronding this PAS that it has advantages etc. An extract from the a Circular link below, titled: PAS 7: 2013 – Fire Risk Management System Specification, 2013-43 was issued on 12 December 2013 for the attention of Chief Fire Officers Association Members, All FRS and the General Public Fire risk management systems – Specification (PAS7) is developed by BSI for use as a formal fire risk management system for organisations and individual sites. It provides assurance to Fire and Rescue Authorities in undertaking an audit under the Regulatory (Fire Safety) Order 2005. It is designed to help demonstrate that the organisation is taking responsibility for managing fire risks and complying with the law. Designed to dovetail with the existing British Standard BS 9999 Code of practice for fire safety in the design, management and use of buildings, and other formal management systems such as the BS OHSAS 18001 health and safety management system, the specification applies the ‘plan, do, check, act’ model common to many business management systems. It is recognised that the quality of fire risk management plays a greater role in managing fire risks rather than fire protection measures, particularly in a fire safety engineered building. As a result, the new specification aims to help businesses to manage risks in a formal way. http://www.cfoa.org.uk/download/43272 That means there is/will be third party auditing etc against this PAS by competent auditors ????

"You must appoint one or more competent persons, depending on the size and use of your premises, to carry out any of the preventative and protective measures required by the Order" That's what the guide to offices and shops starts with, are you sure your organisation is complying Messy? IMO you may be taking some of that duty away from the responsible person by making proposals for the different sites to look after their own fra's and/or action items?

Thanks for the replies. All very useful. I am concerned that we are not fully compliant, in that our management structure is different from site to site. This prevents having a uniform approach to managing fire safety. In addition to the fire risk assessment work, I have responsibilities in training, project, building consultation, operational response, fire investigation, procurement of fire safety infrastructure, liaison with the fire and rescue service and a whole lot more. Therefore, I have taken the approach that I am going to complete the FRA visits, write up the report and present it to the building manager. I do not have time to audit their response to my findings. Fire safety comes under facilities who do not understand H&S and our H&S committee are simply not interested in fire safety (as they don't want to step on the toes of facilities!!!). Then when fire is discussed at a higher management level, my boss who knows next-to-nothing about fire, has to present my reports This is a pared down version of where I find myself, So my aim now is to find an effective fire safety management framework and present it (via my boss) to higher management for them to chew over. If I just provide an open-ended 'we are not complying' report, they wont have a clue what to do with it, so I need to give them an idea. So by referring to a BS (which they know is an accepted example of best practice), they are more likely to run with it. This is a large and old fashioned company. I have been very successful in change at lower levels of management, but cannot penetrate the board room to reach the (rather ignorant) top brass. I do honestly believe my position/level in this massively hierarchical management system is one barrier, but I have no chance in cracking that one!!