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jarsmith83  
#1 Posted : 21 November 2014 16:27:24(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Hi All A client is asking us to send our staff into a plant room with FFP3 masks as there is thermal insulation detailed on the asbestos register that is highlighted as high risk and immediate action required. Can anyone please give me a few reasons why this is not acceptable? And/or what we would have to implement to ensure this is carries out correctly. Note* the work is merely in the plant room, not directly on the pipework with the thermal insulation detailed as high risk. Any help would be much appreciated.
kevkel  
#2 Posted : 24 November 2014 08:58:42(UTC)
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kevkel

It depends whether there is a posibility of disturbance. If not then the face masks are redundant but if, as I suspect there might, be a chance of disturbance the issuing of face masks alone is not appropriate. Fibres can be carried on the clothing and spread e.g. home for washing. For me if they are advising control measures it must be the full suite of asbestos controls and not just immediate protection of the breathing zone during point of exposure.
JohnW  
#3 Posted : 26 November 2014 12:07:47(UTC)
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JohnW

jarsmith, kevkel's advice is spot. Additionally, the plant room staff would have to have had asbestos training, and I suspect 'asbestos awareness training' alone would not be sufficient in this situation. Interesting the client says the insulation is 'high risk and immediate action required'. I would enquire if they think the insulation has previously been disturbed, in that case there could be dust on the floor and on top of any cabinets or equipment in the plant room and therefore that dust could be disturbed just by walking into the room or touching anything. If so, kevkel's advice and asbestos training is very important.
Adams29600  
#4 Posted : 02 December 2014 12:53:12(UTC)
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Adams29600

If the material has been identified as high risk, immediate action, then it is not only whether the workers intend to disturb the material, but whether it is possible to. Previous posters advice is good. Get advice from your asbestos surveyor, but it does rather sound like remedial action is required. If this is the case then potentially every entry to the plant room by your operators may result in exposure which is reportable under RIDDOR.
grim72  
#5 Posted : 02 December 2014 12:58:19(UTC)
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grim72

As someone that had to say farewell to a close family friend this week who succumbed to the horrors that asbestos brings I'd reiterate the previous comments and take maximum precautions around this silent killer. RIP Dave.
Gav81  
#6 Posted : 02 December 2014 13:21:45(UTC)
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Gav81

Hi there I personnally would ask to their Asbestos Management Plan before I allowed any of my staff to enter this plant room. The plan should detail that actions that should be or should have been undertaken following the asbestos survey. If the cleint is stating it is high risk and immediate action required, this action could possibly be removal by licensed asbestos contractor and air clearance certficates required prior to entering the area. If the client is asking you to wear FFP3 masks, this may indiacte they beleive the fibres are airborne. Like KevKel said the fibres wont just be inhaled they will also be on clothing etc. I think the first step would be to request sight of the asbestos management plan to undertand exactly what you are dealing with here.
jarsmith83  
#7 Posted : 03 December 2014 10:36:13(UTC)
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jarsmith83

Thanks All for your replies, and I am very happy that you are all of the same thought line as myself. I cannot go into any further information on this for obvious reasons, but believe the advice from client side being incorrect. Your replies have been an excellent sanity check.
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