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Nelson19010  
#1 Posted : 19 December 2014 13:11:10(UTC)
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Nelson19010

Can anyone point me towards guidelines for the above, ideally from an authoritive source. It appears to be common practice in the painting and decorating sector to construct a platform in stairwells of houses et . using a leaning ladder, a step ladder and a scaffold board to enable people to access walls in the stairwell, and painters don't like to use brushes or rollers on long poles. There appears to often be no guard rail, or similar, to reduce the risk of persons standing on the platform stepping or falling off the edge of it. I find this approach unsatisfactory, and wondered if anyone could suggest a SENSIBLE way forward.
Alfasev  
#2 Posted : 19 December 2014 15:01:38(UTC)
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Alfasev

It appears you already know what should be in place. It is a common unacceptable practice which normally occurs because the client has gone for the cheapest price. Just refer to http://www.hse.gov.uk/work-at-height/index.htm. The way forward is dependent on your involvement in the work.
Palmer20061  
#3 Posted : 19 December 2014 15:10:22(UTC)
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Palmer20061

Virtually all of the larger plant hire companies can supply tower scaffolds for stairwells, it's a very standard item of equipment. Obviously ought to be erected by a PASMA(t) trained person
HSSnail  
#4 Posted : 19 December 2014 16:38:31(UTC)
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HSSnail

Nelson Not sure if this is your first post but as a new user welcome to the forum. If by Authoritative source you mean some Law or Guidance specifically about painting stair wells then I am afraid you wont find it. You will have to go back to the work at height regulations and apply the requirements to the work activity. The HSE web site as some good guidance about the safe way to work in different situations.
frankc  
#5 Posted : 19 December 2014 17:43:11(UTC)
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frankc

Nelson19010 wrote:
I find this approach unsatisfactory
Dare i say both you and the HSE will find this approach unsatisfactory during an unannounced visit or God forbid, a nasty fall. The things you can get away with in the home whilst doing DIY are not acceptable in the workplace but as Alfasev has indicated, it appears you already know the next step.
bob youel  
#6 Posted : 20 December 2014 08:22:44(UTC)
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bob youel

Is this in a private domestic owned property or a business in some way as if its a business talk to the H&S person working for the business [if they have one?] If its a private domestic owned home situation talk to the householder if U want but they will not want to spend money on a guard rail and I doubt that they will talk to U anyway And its down to risk assessment and the formal guidance that there is as noted. However nobody is proactively enforcing the law so the solution is an educational one best of luck
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