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Dear all
I am sure this has been discussed on the forum before, so apologies in advance for my aging brain.
what is the difference between a
Health and safety advisor
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Health and Safety Manager
thanks in advance
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in my view - an adviser gives advice and ensures that H &S is being carried out in line with internal procedures and statutory legislation and a manager would be responsible for managing the advisers, ensuring that the advisers are competent, setting objectives, liaising with the board etc
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I'm not sure their is any difference.
Its the job description that defines what people do and not necessary the title of their job.
In some respects and adviser is deemed to be a higher level than a Manager (I subscribe to this theory, one highly trained advisor advising the Managers) but in some organisations the advisers sits under the Managers, as the previous post suggests.
Just take a look at the job posts on the SHP for H&S advisers, the salary differs vastly.
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Over the pase few years I would say its about 30K
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I have been both.
Health and Safety Manager when employed by a company. I managed the health and safety.
When self employed and working for a number of different "clients" I have been their Health and Safety Adviser or Consultant. Not directly managing their health and safety within the company but available when required to offer advice.
One construction company I worked for as H&S Manager then I left for personal domestic reasons and they employed a H&S Manager who needed some help so they employed me as H&S Adviser and I worked closely with the H&S Manager.
Good eh
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I am sure its just semantics, but your title can be significant.
I recently changed my title to 'adviser' as part of a strategy to emphasis the 'ownership' and governance of fire safety belonged to managers and dept heads and NOT me.
So I now advise and not manage fire safety. Its only a word, but I hope it will help get the message across
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Thanks all for the response
I knew that the obligatory salary would come into it
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Lynn,
There is a legal difference. An 'advisor' is exactly that, a person who is employed or engaged to provide advice to e.g. managers and the board. A 'manager' is somebody (again employed or engaged) who has responsibility (and therefore liability) for 'managing'. A manager can therefore fall within the scope of section 37 of the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act 1974 and may also meet the requirements laid out in R -v- Boal (1992). An advisor/adviser cannot have the same liability in law.
I trust this assists you.
DJ
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Absolutely none what-so-ever. Any differences should be reflected in any job role and job specifications. Other than that its words.
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If there are differences between H&S Advisor and H&S Manager as djupnorth suggests where does H&S Officer fit in to all this? For me it all rests firmly in the detail given in the job description and job specification and also in the roles and responsibilities section in our H&S Policy, where the responsibilities of Managers etc are laid out in black and white.
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In absolute terms, a Manager would manage & control "resources" , i.e. Health & Safety personnel, budgets or provide direction to senior most executives within the organisation for setting policy, vision etc. Even if there is a managers, the implementation of policy etc is generally down to "departmental" managers
An Adviser would typically not manage & control "resources", but would provide professional advice to various stakeholders within the organisation and co-ordinate implementation of policy etc, but let the "departmental" managers do the actual implementation
In reality, there does not appear to be a norm and the job title is very much dependent upon the organisation!
The term "Officer" appears to be outdated, although could be used in a few local authoriltes and in other countries
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