I suppose my only question would be about the proximity of the workstation to the pillar??? But on balance I guess I think, on the evidence provided, that I wouldn't report this one. People do sometimes just walk into things (I know I have!), John

This is an accident, perhaps she has done this task day in day out for the last year, but on that particular day it just happened. I would report it.

As the accident happened in the workplace it is reportable. I would avoid fabricating reasons not to report it to save your record. In my experience organisation who do this under report accident and near misses which can contribute to a culture of obscuring health and safety issues which will eventually manifest itself somewhere, serious accident, claims etc.

Had similar incident, an employee walked into a door! A door they new to be there! I didn't report it, for the extact key factors you mention in your post.

Again just because it happened at work does not automatically make it reportable. For me it would depend on the proximity of the post to the work station. If so close that if they were to stand and take one step and hit the post then possibly I would report, if they have to take several then I think not. Also is the post clear ie is the white post against a white background, so it blends in. Sorry my answer is "it depends" Chris

Score so far 4 to report 3 not to report

ignore my comment...dame where is the delete button..i think im actually mistaken

Sorry stonecold - you must have been writing at the same time as me!

Not report for me. None of the contributory factors were work related. ..

Post accident are you going to re-site the desk? Will this area be free of the pillar and could the desk have been sited there in the 1st place?

I have to say that, despite my other post, I don't think there is any action to take at all unless the work may have caused disorientation or dizziness (you did mentioned a lab bench?).

As this appears to have turned into a vote, I'm in the 'NO' camp.

Based on the information provided I will join in with the current not RIDDOR count and providing the technician turns up for work on Monday. Friday accident (excluded from count), Two days weekend, Monday to Friday off = Seven consecutive days. The incident would fall reportable on Saturday as this would be the day "over seven consecutive" but as this is not a standard work day the next time the technician should be at work is Monday which is when the employer would know for definite. Appreciate it is a bit late in the day but perhaps a quick call enquiring after the technicians health and anticipated return date would have salved the torment. If they remain off on Monday I reserve the right to switch vote as we would have new facts to consider and act upon. What about a nice bright relevant work related poster to attach to the pillar at general eye level - "Caution! Technician leaving work" perhaps...

Guys I'm on the not reportable side! What you need to decide is if it work related, just because it happened in the workplace it doesn't necessarily mean work related. This may sound strange, but if you take a look at the HSE leaflet INDG453(rev1), it states the following: Not all accidents need to be reported, a RIDDOR report is required only when: ■ the accident is work-related; When deciding if the accident that led to the death or injury is work-related, the key issues to consider are whether the accident was related to: ■ the way the work was organised, carried out or supervised; ■ any machinery, plant, substances or equipment used for work; and ■ the condition of the site or premises where the accident happened. If none of these factors are relevant to the incident, it is likely that a report will not be required. In your case none of these seem to relevant, so I would say don't report.

Not reportable camp, myself - no work activity. And in any event - I'm my experience HSE or LA will just ignore it any way, I'm sure they would not investigate it, so reporting it to them would serve no purpose, apart from skewing the figures. Remember we should be understanding of the intentions or RIDDOR and not bogged down in the letter of it, this is why we get so many RIDDOR post questions here and differences of opinion of is meaning.

http://www.healthandsafe...sw/tesco-riddor-failures DP I am sure you could have found this yourself but happy to help a non believer anyway.

The Above links do not get the full article so I have pasted it here. Supermarket giant Tesco has been prosecuted for not reporting staff accidents properly at two of its Berkshire stores, and for failing to load and unload vehicles safely. Bracknell Forest Council’s environmental health team charged the retailer with four offences, which took place during 2009 and 2010. Council officers discovered Tesco had failed to report two employee accidents at its Warfield store and another at its store at The Meadows in Sandhurst. The failures were uncovered during an investigation into the retailer’s failure to stop an unsafe working practice that involved using a metal plate to unload vehicles at the Warfield store. The company was not training its operational or managerial staff properly to load and unload vehicles, and it had no safe system of work in place. Yesterday (30 March), Bracknell magistrates fined Tesco £14,000 after it admitted failing to ensure employees’ safety, in breach of Section 2(1) of the Health and Safety at Work Act. Tesco was fined a further £34,000 after pleading guilty to three breaches of Regulation 3 of the Reporting of Injuries, Diseases and Dangerous Occurrences Regulations. Two of these charges involved Tesco not reporting accidents by the “quickest practicable means” and the third was a failure to send a report to the enforcing authority within 10 days. Tesco, which operates 2500 UK stores employing more than 287,000 staff, must also pay £25,000 in prosecution costs. David Steeds, head of environmental health at Bracknell Forest Council, said the company’s failure to keep to the rules meant several employees were injured, one quite seriously, and others were put at risk.

DP, try this one. http://www.hse.gov.uk/enforce/examples/riddor.htm It appears that whenever the HSE stumble upon an unreported accident they will look deeper into the employer's safety culture and come up with other prosecutable offences hence in this case the RIDDOR offence, even though it seems to have been the first offence, was at the bottom of the list of offences. I was once a H&S Consultant and visited a Client, they were a Pub serving proper cooked meals through the day and had been prosecuted by HSE for not reporting a RIDDOR. The accident involved a kitchen assistant who received a bad gash on an arm from a very sharp kitchen knife. As a result of the prosecution they employed my employer and that was the reason for my visit to them. That was a single prosecution.

This is another case of a prosecution with a riddor offence attached to it. I'm still interested in stand alone cases for none reporting of accidents under riddor. I'm not saying they don't exist I'm saying I'm not aware of one.

No I'm not an hard person to please at all I'm simply requesting you qualify your statement, which you now have admitted you can't. Matter closed thank you.