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Rus1969  
#1 Posted : 30 January 2015 11:48:25(UTC)
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Rus1969

Has anyone managed to attend the move from CDM 2007 to CDM 2015 run by the APS.

If anyone has feedback from any of the presentations it would be appreciated.

I am booked in on the Crawley presentation, over the moon to pay £85 to attend (Friday humour)
paulw71  
#2 Posted : 30 January 2015 12:13:57(UTC)
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paulw71

Personally speaking I wouldnt pay £85 to hear the APS spin on the 2015 regulations. They have been next to useless on the subject for the last 2 years and I cant see any reason why that will change. There are plenty of opinions being freely published online to give a broad enough spectrum of veiwpoints across the construction industry.
Alfasev  
#3 Posted : 30 January 2015 12:42:43(UTC)
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Alfasev

I agree with paulw71, they are just going to run down the regs and let others debate a bit. There will be no real guidance. I am very disappointed with the APS, they should post advise to all members. The vast majority of who are CDM-Cs. IOSH have provided more information than them.

I read the new regs and participated in a number of forums to build up my knowledge.
Stedman  
#4 Posted : 30 January 2015 14:29:45(UTC)
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Stedman

If you take the domestic client out of the equation, realise that the role of the CDM-C has been removed with the majority of the tasks undertaken by the CDM-C being split between the Principal Designer and Client, some minor changes to notification, although CDM has been completely re-drafted, there very little which has changed other than there is now a whole sentence to replace the word competence.

My view was that as I have already prepared a paper on these changes, this training is not necessary.

I also notice that this time APS are not undertaking another RMAPS type exam.
paulw71  
#5 Posted : 30 January 2015 14:33:31(UTC)
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paulw71

Stedman wrote:
If you take the domestic client out of the equation, realise that the role of the CDM-C has been removed with the majority of the tasks undertaken by the CDM-C being split between the Principal Designer and Client, some minor changes to notification, although CDM has been completely re-drafted, there very little which has changed other than there is now a whole sentence to replace the word competence.

My view was that as I have already prepared a paper on these changes, this training is not necessary.

I also notice that this time APS are not undertaking another RMAPS type exam.


"At this time" being the key statement. It wont be long. I`ll put money on it.
paulw71  
#6 Posted : 30 January 2015 14:36:32(UTC)
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paulw71

paulw71 wrote:
Stedman wrote:
If you take the domestic client out of the equation, realise that the role of the CDM-C has been removed with the majority of the tasks undertaken by the CDM-C being split between the Principal Designer and Client, some minor changes to notification, although CDM has been completely re-drafted, there very little which has changed other than there is now a whole sentence to replace the word competence.

My view was that as I have already prepared a paper on these changes, this training is not necessary.

I also notice that this time APS are not undertaking another RMAPS type exam.


"At this time" being the key statement. It wont be long. I`ll put money on it.


Stedman
Apologies for misquoting you.
Stedman  
#7 Posted : 30 January 2015 14:40:45(UTC)
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Stedman

As an APS member, the real elephant in the room as far as I am concerned is what is likely to happen to this organisation. Membership fees are now greater than IOSH and I have to pay to attend what we regard as branch meetings.
paulw71  
#8 Posted : 30 January 2015 14:46:22(UTC)
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paulw71

Stedman wrote:
As an APS member, the real elephant in the room as far as I am concerned is what is likely to happen to this organisation. Membership fees are now greater than IOSH and I have to pay to attend what we regard as branch meetings.



Likewise.
My thoughts are they will set up a short course to try and set up the designers they have on their register on a "Principal Designers Register".
Cynical ? Maybe.
Stedman  
#9 Posted : 30 January 2015 15:14:07(UTC)
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Stedman

paulw71 wrote:
Stedman wrote:
As an APS member, the real elephant in the room as far as I am concerned is what is likely to happen to this organisation. Membership fees are now greater than IOSH and I have to pay to attend what we regard as branch meetings.



Likewise.
My thoughts are they will set up a short course to try and set up the designers they have on their register on a "Principal Designers Register".
Cynical ? Maybe.


With the bulk of their membership based upon their RMaPS grade or CDM-C related, they must be ready for a big hit with their membership. I have a final payment request for £150 and at the moment it is 50/50 decision which way I will jump!

My hunch is that they will eventually want to get into bed with another membership body.
Alfasev  
#10 Posted : 30 January 2015 15:24:17(UTC)
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Alfasev

I think the APS are in trouble, the major charted institutes like ICE, RIBA, RICS are going to dominate the registration of PDs. They abandoned gaining charter status and compete against IOSH for site safety credibility. Interesting is that there net value is about ½ million which if they dissolve any remain value goes to the remaining members.
Rus1969  
#11 Posted : 30 January 2015 15:39:39(UTC)
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Rus1969

Breaking news- I have a copy of the APS slides from their seminars if anyone would like a copy PM me!
Rus1969  
#12 Posted : 30 January 2015 16:39:20(UTC)
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Rus1969

I will also be saying goodbye to the APS at the end of March,as will most of my colleagues, I do not see a future for them.
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