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Merrison17687  
#1 Posted : 01 February 2015 12:00:24(UTC)
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Merrison17687

I am building a new risk assessment and hazard awareness/identification training package for people working on a top tier COMAH site. Does anybody know of a good Risk assessment training DVD that i could use as part of my training package?
A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 02 February 2015 11:22:09(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Sorry if I am being obtuse but why would a DVD help with training in how to do a risk assessment?
Yes video is good for manual handling and working at heights but surely teaching about risk assessment is largely down to explaining why you do it, then how you do it and finally working through some examples.
Not very visual but should be hands on.
chris.packham  
#3 Posted : 02 February 2015 15:59:09(UTC)
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chris.packham

I would agree with the previous posting. Indeed, in my view there is no 'standard' approach to risk assessment training. For example, I cover risk assessment for chemical hazards (COSHH)training as part of my work and it is clear that there is 'no one-size fits all' approach. Hazards and risks vary enormously depending on the nature of the work, so a what is OK for a chemical manufacturing plant will be largely irrelevant for a pharmaceutical manufacturer, general engineering workshop, construction site, retail premises, etc. Risk assessment for accidents (where the effect is instantaneous) and for health issues (where the effect may not become apparent for a considerable time) need individual approaches. To be effective I believe the training must be tailored to what is happening on site.

Chris
Ian Bell  
#4 Posted : 02 February 2015 16:39:43(UTC)
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Ian Bell

Also if you are talking about a COMAH site, there are 2 directions of approach to risk assessment.

There is the traditional occupational type risk assessments for everyday activities experienced by the plant operators e.g. work at height, CoSHH, maybe confined spaces i.e. low consequence, higher probability

Then there are process risks e.g fire & explosion risks and consequence analysis, DSEAR assessment, SIL risk assessments, LOPA risk assessments i.e. low likelihood but high consequence events

Site operators don't usually get too involved with these types of risk assessments
JohnW  
#5 Posted : 02 February 2015 18:03:26(UTC)
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JohnW

Merrison17687 wrote:
I am building a new risk assessment and hazard awareness/identification training package for people working on a top tier COMAH site. Does anybody know of a good Risk assessment training DVD that i could use as part of my training package?



Merrison, I am astonished that someone advising a COMAH site wants a commercial off-the-shelf DVD for his training package.

If you are advising a COMAH site you should be preparing everything specific for that site, and make your own DVD!

NLivesey  
#6 Posted : 04 February 2015 11:02:06(UTC)
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NLivesey

Wow, I'm astonished that a simple request from a new forum user has generated such a negative bunch of responses from some established names.
Do we know what the training package includes? No.
Do we know that it doesn't cover site specific considerations for RA? No.
Merrison has asked for some info to help put a training plan together, not for a blow by blow deconstruction of his request for some source material...
Ian Bell  
#7 Posted : 04 February 2015 12:02:40(UTC)
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Ian Bell

Why is my previous post negative?

I simply ask the question as to which angle the risk assessment training is aimed at.

Having worked around COMAH sites for a number of years - there are the 2 distinct risk assessment approaches, as I have outlined.

There is little point in training someone to undertake risk assessments, with say, operational issues in mind, if you need to know the major accident hazard potential and the associated risk assessment techniques used for this aspect of COMAH site risk assessment.
A Kurdziel  
#8 Posted : 04 February 2015 12:05:50(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

NLivesey wrote:
Wow, I'm astonished that a simple request from a new forum user has generated such a negative bunch of responses from some established names.
Do we know what the training package includes? No.
Do we know that it doesn't cover site specific considerations for RA? No.
Merrison has asked for some info to help put a training plan together, not for a blow by blow deconstruction of his request for some source material...

Perhaps this is because based on our years of experience 1) we suspect that a simple and effective package like that does not exist and 2) we suspect that the original poster is asking the wrong question.
The question could be “What training in risk assessment on COMAH sites should I be looking at for my staff”.
hilary  
#9 Posted : 04 February 2015 12:15:39(UTC)
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hilary

Merrison17687

I am going to assume that you want a DVD to break up the training somewhat and use this instead of just preaching ona nd on in a monotonous tone. This is what I use aids for as well. Not to train but to push the point home in a different way - same message, different perspective.

Anyway, in light of this, I have added a link to Napo who is a European Safety Icon and he has a series of very short videos on risk assessment which run well in powerpoint and you could use to break up the monotony. They are also, generally, mildly amusing so hope this goes well for you.

http://www.napofilm.net/...=napo-009-risky-business

Merrison17687  
#10 Posted : 15 February 2016 13:34:23(UTC)
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Merrison17687

Thanks to those that posted, in particular those of a proactive nature. Those of you who did so did not assume that I was looking for a DVD training package but some content that I could use to support the training that I am updating. Thank you Hilary for the links they are most helpful.
walker  
#11 Posted : 15 February 2016 14:03:45(UTC)
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walker

quote=JohnW]
Merrison17687 wrote:
I am building a new risk assessment and hazard awareness/identification training package for people working on a top tier COMAH site. Does anybody know of a good Risk assessment training DVD that I could use as part of my training package?



Merrison, I am astonished that someone advising a COMAH site wants a commercial off-the-shelf DVD for his training package.

If you are advising a COMAH site you should be preparing everything specific for that site, and make your own DVD!



John maybe you need new specs or maybe you need to take time and read what's written.
The OP did not ask for a off the shelf training package, DVD or otherwise.
I read his request exactly the same as Hilary.
Like any good trainer the OP wants to use a variety of media to supplement his training and asks for help in that direction.




walker  
#12 Posted : 15 February 2016 14:10:39(UTC)
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walker

I use odd relevant bits of "Hazard spotting".

See this list
http://www.rydermarsh.com/dvds.html
Other DVDs in this series are very good too for other types of training


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