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meady  
#1 Posted : 05 February 2015 11:43:52(UTC)
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meady

Hi everyone I haven't been on here for a few weeks as I have changed jobs. I am now at a manufacturer of static homes and holiday lodges. I have a question for anyone in a manufacturer using wood, plaster board etc. How is the best way to deal with the level of dust produced? The factory is quite old and there is a lot of dust. To make matters worse, the cleaner is sweeping the area throughout the day. The air quality tests came back as acceptable but having spoken with a few guys in the factory this is a concern to them. Do you have any ideas that can help me?? Thanks
Gav81  
#2 Posted : 05 February 2015 11:52:41(UTC)
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Gav81

Hi Meady Firstly I would like at engineering measures such as dust extraction, is there any local exhaust ventilation in place. I would also look at introducing health monitoring forms, to pro-actively identfy if there are any health issues with the workforce. It would also be a good idea to use an industrial vacuum cleaner (M Class) to clean up the dust rather than sweeping, as sweeping as you point out can matters worse. Another area to look at during the risk assessment process is the use of RPE and whether it is required. Hope this helps Gav
Flashman  
#3 Posted : 05 February 2015 11:54:55(UTC)
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Flashman

I get the feeling that this is going to cost a lot of money to put right. I'm not experienced in this area enough to comment other than dust extraction is needed but comes at a cost. As luck has it, there are many top people here who can give you chapter and verse on this little gem.
jodieclark1510  
#4 Posted : 05 February 2015 12:03:03(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Not a solution but might help somewhat, instead of the sweeping, use a wet machine for the floors? It will clump the dust and debris rather than lift it back into the air when sweeping.
hilary  
#5 Posted : 05 February 2015 12:26:24(UTC)
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hilary

Congratulations on the new job! I would also be very aware of any hardwoods as these can cause nasal cancers - weird but true. Other than this, I agree with Gav - dust extraction and remember that wood dust can cause explosive atmospheres under DSEAR so probably sweeping is not a great idea. Hope this helps.
chris.packham  
#6 Posted : 05 February 2015 12:33:41(UTC)
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chris.packham

Rather than a conventional approach using workplace area LEV systems, think about on-tool extraction. Each item of equipment, including hand held power tools, should be fitted with such extraction. This can be much more effective than allowing the dust to get out into the workplace then trying to remove it through LEV, sweeping, etc. I have just produced a proposal on this for a dusty workplace (with lots of hand held tools for sanding and grinding) with extensive LEV that was not achieving control needed. (I have no commercial interest in any of the suppliers of such equipment.) If you need more information PM me and I will happily (and without obligation) point you in the appropriate direction. Chris
mikecarr  
#7 Posted : 05 February 2015 12:53:34(UTC)
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mikecarr

meady wrote:
Hi everyone I haven't been on here for a few weeks as I have changed jobs. I am now at a manufacturer of static homes and holiday lodges. I have a question for anyone in a manufacturer using wood, plaster board etc. How is the best way to deal with the level of dust produced? The factory is quite old and there is a lot of dust. To make matters worse, the cleaner is sweeping the area throughout the day. The air quality tests came back as acceptable but having spoken with a few guys in the factory this is a concern to them. Do you have any ideas that can help me?? I would get a specialist in,whether that be a Occ health consultant or a LEV supplier. Get a quote/reccomedation and give it to management Thanks
meady  
#8 Posted : 05 February 2015 13:43:17(UTC)
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meady

Thanks for the comments guys. The on-tool extraction is definitely an idea I am going to look into, and trying to get the vacuum is another one that I hadn't even thought of...but I am told that the company looked at this option previously but decided it was too much of an expense (I'm hoping to get a good deal from somewhere!). Thanks again for all of the input
David Bannister  
#9 Posted : 05 February 2015 15:05:28(UTC)
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David Bannister

Meady, do not make the mistake of accepting a domestic type vacuum cleaner as a cheap option. I once attempted to clear a spillage of dry plaster with my vac and suffered the effects of airborne and settling fine dust all round the house for ages afterwards, after it passed straight through the filter!
grim72  
#10 Posted : 05 February 2015 15:05:37(UTC)
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grim72

Try Numatic for the vacuum cleaners (they also produce the good old Henry). The heavy duty/ATEX approved versions can get into the high hundreds but at the end of the day if it prevents multiple health claims in the years to come then it is probabaly an investment worth considering. BVC and Nederman would be others worth contacting?
Ian Bell  
#11 Posted : 05 February 2015 17:10:20(UTC)
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Ian Bell

I will accept it might be difficult to do, but aren't you all missing the risk control hierarchy. I would see where the jobs/manufacturing process can be changed to prevent the generation of dusts in the first place. Can some items be purchased already cut & finished? Speak to your production engineers? Then no need for LEV and the costs of operating LEV systems (maintenance, power consumption etc). You may get other cost savings in terms of labour/assembly costs as well, no waste disposal costs etc, which can only benefit the business
Auchie00  
#12 Posted : 05 February 2015 21:31:14(UTC)
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Auchie00

Hi, Some years back I worked in a joinery manufacturing company and dust levels too where quite high and you always seemed to be clearing up, what we done to combat was; 1. Sourced some dressed material that meant minimal work needing completed on the wood 2. Made sure that the crown guards where fitted with LEV as well as the underside of table saws 3. Used a hard brush to sweep off the top layer of dust from undressed woods, it is quite amazing the amount of dust that is displaced when feeding through a thickness planer. 4. Damping down as much as possible when sweeping It certainly never eliminated the amounts of dust but it did make an impact on the frequency of sweeping up, the organisation I worked for certainly could not afford to source out everything or install a top of the range LEV but we did what we could. Chris
Blue  
#13 Posted : 06 February 2015 12:21:40(UTC)
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Blue

You might also want to look at workwear as I suspect the clothing they're wearing is heavily contaminated, holding a lot of dust. There are some good garments in use throughout the pottery industry which work excellently allowing the dust to fall from the garment away from the breathing zone of the wearer. Any LEV you install, make sure it pulls away from the job and not passed the face of the guys. You're probably up against it but good luck.
meady  
#14 Posted : 09 February 2015 08:28:48(UTC)
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meady

Hi thanks again for the input. There was a dust test a few months back which found the levels within the WELs but I still think there is room for improvement (and so do the guys in the factory) so im going to keep raising the issue and see what we can do. Thanks again
firesafety101  
#15 Posted : 09 February 2015 10:50:19(UTC)
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firesafety101

Congrats on the new job. You may need RPE in the short term for the operatives if the level of dust off the work is high. Also if machine cutting MDF look out for the Formaldehyde coming into the air.
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