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LATCHY  
#1 Posted : 17 February 2015 11:11:21(UTC)
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LATCHY

If you have asbestos chrysotile scattered around an old building which you are about to demolition would this be classed as an environmental clean rather than just a notifiable removal of asbestos, can anyone tell me, advice please
boblewis  
#2 Posted : 17 February 2015 11:38:05(UTC)
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boblewis

Latchy There is no significant difference between the two and both will be a major task to prove cleanliness in view of your words "scattered about". If you think about it if some ACM is scattered about what about the stuff you have not yet seen and what precautions were taken when entering the building in the first place. You should notify - this should be done automatically by any licenced contractor.
descarte8  
#3 Posted : 17 February 2015 11:44:42(UTC)
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descarte8

In contrast to the above I would say it depends what the material is, you only say its composition, chrysotile and the quantities involved. If for example it is a large amount of broken asbestos cement sheet roof panels which are degraded, its more likely to be NNLW, (http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/licensing/notifiable-non-licensed-work.htm) Examples given are: asbestos cement products (eg roof sheeting) where the material has been substantially damaged or broken up (eg as a result of fire or flood damage) asbestos cement products (eg roof sheeting) where the removal activity will mean that the material will be substantially broken up, creating significant quantities of dust and debris (eg ‘dropping’ an asbestos cement roof) If the "chrysotile product" is not terribly degraded, or well bound within its matrix still, it may not even qualify as NNLW. (http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/licensing/notifiable-non-licensed-work.htm#non-licensable) I am also assuming of course you already have a full demolition survey, which is what has identified the debris to you.
RayRapp  
#4 Posted : 18 February 2015 12:30:05(UTC)
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RayRapp

A slightly different perspective - do you know for sure it's Chrysotile or do you suspect it is? I doubt whether you have had a D/R survey because of your question. Asbestos is primarily a health and safety hazard, it does, however, become an environmental hazard when it becomes a waste product. How exactly you should dispose of the asbestos depends on the amount, its structure i.e. friable or not and possibly some other factors. I would recommend that a licensed asbestos contractor clean up and dispose of the asbestos regardless because the process of disposal is very prescriptive.
bob youel  
#5 Posted : 19 February 2015 08:29:03(UTC)
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bob youel

some great answers again and remember, as already noted by Ray, there is probably two enforcing authorities here; the HSE and/or EA so you need to provide more info to this forum so as more support can be given
LATCHY  
#6 Posted : 19 February 2015 09:13:44(UTC)
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LATCHY

I can advise that it is chrysotile, the old cement roof sheets have been damaged over time and collapsed into the building they are broken and wet which will keep fibres down, and we always complete a demolition and refurbishment survey on all premises before demolition, just thought I would pose a question to see what answers were given and if my thinking/thoughts were along the correct lines, thanks for all you responses
kevkel  
#7 Posted : 19 February 2015 12:03:15(UTC)
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kevkel

The problem with wet fibres is the chance they have of entering the water system or contaminating the soil around. Creates an even bigger problem and clean up!
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