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elevation  
#1 Posted : 26 March 2015 09:10:45(UTC)
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When completing or registering an accident at work (within the companies own accident reporting procedure or book)for example a cut to a finger, this is acceptable as an injury has occurred.

Where no injury has been sustained, or no damage to plant or equipment has occurrred, then this is a near miss and should be reported within the companies near miss procedure.

Would my fellow professionals agree with these sentiments?
jodieclark1510  
#2 Posted : 26 March 2015 09:16:24(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

Situations where there is injury, loss or damage is an accident ie broken foot after a fall
Where something occurs which had the potential to cause injury, loss or damage is an incident ie tripping up
seeing the hazard is a near miss ie seeing the cable across the walkway

This is what my current employer follows
elevation  
#3 Posted : 26 March 2015 09:24:39(UTC)
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Jodie

Thank you.

How would you report somebody tripping up on a loose wire, trailing the floor but incurring no injury?

Near miss?
JohnW  
#4 Posted : 26 March 2015 09:28:57(UTC)
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JohnW

That trip example is a near miss in my opinion.

Receiving an electric shock when cutting though a power lead.
After a few minutes no lasting effect.

That's still an accident, yes?
elevation  
#5 Posted : 26 March 2015 09:33:42(UTC)
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Yes John, that's an accident and should be recorded as one.

I go by the general rule of thumb that if an injury occurs, its reported as an accident, internally or through RIDDOR dependant on severity.

If no injury occurs, we utilise the near miss procedure and implement measures that can prevent an accident in future.
JohnW  
#6 Posted : 26 March 2015 09:39:01(UTC)
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JohnW

So receiving a non-fatal electric shock is an injury - an injury you recover from quickly with no lasting visual effects.

I suppose similar to getting an irritating bit of dust in your eye and you recover quickly after a squirt of eye-wash.
elevation  
#7 Posted : 26 March 2015 09:48:27(UTC)
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John,

This was the purpose in my question as it is a grey area.

A person bangs there head under a machine. Accident or near miss?

The persons head hurts a little but no lasting damage, according to them. How do you report it?

For me, I remain un-interested how its reported and under which scheme but the important factor is that we know about it and we can help prevent a re-occurrance.

The problem I have is a director or manager wanting to keep their accident figures to a minimum and therefore arguing what's an accident and what's a near miss...
A Kurdziel  
#8 Posted : 26 March 2015 10:12:42(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

My rule of thumb has been if it hurts, it's an accident.
If you go: “That could have been much worse but at least nobody has been hurt”: it’s a near miss.
jodieclark1510  
#9 Posted : 26 March 2015 10:25:09(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

It would be classed as an incident because there was no injury, damage or loss in my place of work. It would still be investigated like an accident and followu up/recommendations made
JohnW  
#10 Posted : 26 March 2015 11:30:09(UTC)
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JohnW

jodieclark1510 wrote:
It would be classed as an incident because there was no injury, damage or loss in my place of work. It would still be investigated like an accident and follow up/recommendations made


Which incident are you referring to Jodie?

The electric shock or the head bump?


.
jodieclark1510  
#11 Posted : 26 March 2015 12:26:32(UTC)
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jodieclark1510

If the head bump didnt cause pain then that would be an incident where I work
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