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Carrietobin  
#1 Posted : 26 March 2015 12:40:11(UTC)
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Carrietobin

Hello all, Some of our chaps use a substance which contains Polymethylene Polyphenyl Isocyanate (expanding foam). We were recently informed by our COSHH assessors that they now recommend that users wear a AXP3 mask.

However, our supplier has told us that this mask will not protect the users from the fumes?? And in fact there is no mask manufactured that can protect the users from these fumes.

They are using for approx 1/2 hour per shift.

What do other people use please?

Thanks
Ian Bell  
#2 Posted : 26 March 2015 14:49:09(UTC)
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Ian Bell

More information required.

Use of PPE should be lower down your hierarchy of controls.

What about ventilation, containment, forced extraction (LEVs)?
JohnW  
#3 Posted : 26 March 2015 15:01:09(UTC)
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JohnW

Carrie,

Some processes with chemicals containing isocyanates use positive pressure air respirators which ensure the operators are always breathing fresh air, probably a better option than face masks.

One of the problems is operators taking masks off in their work area where the ventilation is poor and isocyanate fumes are still lingering.

Also if you don't have good local ventilation are you protecting other employees nearby?

I expect you know that isocyanate vapour if inhaled can cause occupational asthma and also sensitisation. For this reason all your operators should be included in a surveillance programme.

The programme includes surveillance for asthma as well as dermatitis.

For asthma, operators should have annual lung function testing and answer a questionnaire. For new employees carry this out on beginning work; after 6 weeks; 6 months and then yearly.
Also there should be a programme of urine sampling which checks the effectiveness of your RPE or LEV controls. Carry it out during the first few months of someone’s employment to show that RPE or LEV working practices are providing enough protection. You are likely to need to do it at appropriate intervals after that unless it is clear from results that exposure is not happening.

For more info see

http://www.hse.gov.uk/co...isocyanates-spraying.htm

and

http://www.coshh-essenti....uk/assets/live/G402.pdf

and

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/g408.pdf




leadbelly  
#4 Posted : 26 March 2015 16:54:38(UTC)
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leadbelly

I'm sure the HSE advice is that negative pressure masks are not suitable for protection against isocyanate vapours and mists.

LB
JohnW  
#5 Posted : 26 March 2015 17:14:13(UTC)
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JohnW

leadbelly,

That's right, HSE recommend POSITIVE pressure, constant flow air-fed breathing apparatus for isocyanate spraying vapour mist conditions - see links above.

Carrie's process, though, is not a spray process, I think it's like a foam injection process which does release vapour but not as a mist like paint. An LEV could be adequate for her process, so that is another option she may consider particularly as it then protects other employees working nearby.


chris.packham  
#6 Posted : 26 March 2015 17:35:39(UTC)
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chris.packham

Keep in mind that it is not just inhalation exposure that is significant. For me the following statement effectively mandates the need for full head protection with positive pressure hood or similar.

“Air threshold limits are insufficient to prevent adverse health effects in the case of contact with substances with a high dermal absorption potential.” - Drexler H, Skin protection and percutaneous absorption of chemical hazards, Int. Arch Occup. Environ. Health (2003) 76:359-361

There is also now abundant evidence that skin exposure to isocyanates can initiate respiratory reactions, such as asthma.

Although respiratory exposures have been the primary concern with isocyanates, skin exposure can also occur and may contribute to sensitization and asthma. Skin Exposure to Aliphatic Polyisocyanates in the Auto Body Repair and Refinishing Industry: A Qualitative Assessment, Liu Y et al, Annals of Occupational Hygiene, 2007, 51, 429-439

Chris


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