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Is a Spanish issued Electrician Licence valid for work in the UK please? Can anyone advise if there is an official list?
many thanks
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There is no such thing as an electrical licence on the UK.
Anyone working as an Electrician must be familiar with the requirements of the systems that they are working on, and competent to do so.
Now, if we are talking about "fixed wiring", then BS7671 is the “requirement” in the UK.
Now, IF, I was recruiting an Electrician trained in Spain and holding a Spanish “licence”, then I would be looking for them to have undertaken conversion training to the UK requirements which do differ slightly and are IMHO more onerous than the way the “equivalent” standard is treated in the EU.
1st, very good written and spoken English, including a very good English technical vocabulary.
I would have expected them to have put themselves through C&G 2382, 2394, 2395 & 2396, (or EAL equivalents), to make them employable in the UK, and to prove their competence for employability.
Without these courses I would simply not entertain employing them.
Once employed, it would be IMHO, the companies’ responsibility to keep them up to date on regulations and updates etc.
If we are talking about machinery stuff, then it gets more complex, because the standard is EN, but, having worked on EU sourced machinery, they often have a very unusual interpretation of the EN standard, so the worker may well have ideas that don’t fit with the accepted UK interpretation of the standard.
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On the other hand Paul, we have a flood of half-trained 'electricians' (read five-week-wonders - or is that 5 weak wonders?) swamping us time-served and highly qualified and experienced electricians here in Wales and I dare say the UK in general.
I mean, we have only a few deaths by electrocution a year... no one will notice a few more will they???? I would like to offer a vote of thanks for this situation to our leaders and guides such as the NICEIC/ECA in such matters.
Such a shame that only a few of us are trained in H&S thanks to NEBOSH/IOSH but also a shame that these organisations don't speak out.
Rob... swimming against the tide of apathy.
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Robert Pearson wrote:On the other hand Paul, we have a flood of half-trained 'electricians' (read five-week-wonders - or is that 5 weak wonders?) swamping us time-served and highly qualified and experienced electricians here in Wales and I dare say the UK in general.
I mean, we have only a few deaths by electrocution a year... no one will notice a few more will they???? I would like to offer a vote of thanks for this situation to our leaders and guides such as the NICEIC/ECA in such matters.
Such a shame that only a few of us are trained in H&S thanks to NEBOSH/IOSH but also a shame that these organisations don't speak out.
Rob... swimming against the tide of apathy.
Just a moment Rob - this game is sometimes played by 10 day NEBOSH Cert bods who armed with the Cert and let loose can cause more than enough havoc.
Jon
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Quite John, however, I can't see how these H&S bods are going to,kill prople byntheir direct actions, unlike an Electrician, after all the H&S bods are not "doing" the work.
Now the people doing the work need to be competent, and this would then reduce the requirement for said H&S bods and their influence on the work.
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Sorry about the typo's iPad keyboard, computer is busy trying to "fix" itself!
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One of the problems John, and I mean no disrespect to the H&S profession by saying this, is rather easy to explain. Not many people in the H&S game understand the difference between a 'Domestic Electrical Installer' and an fully qualified electrician with testing and design qualifications let alone an 'Electrical Engineer'. And from what I see in here on a regular basis, very little understanding of in-services electrical inspection of appliances (PAT if you like)
I hold the Gen and construction certs and have worked in electrical safety for many years along with construction and industry work and I understand what you say regarding 10 day courses and have had one or ten confrontations with those very people on-site. These people tend to have no real trade but have come into H&S as an 'easy option' and then dish out dangerous advice on electrical. I can't speak for other fields... you people have to fill in the blanks.
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Robert Pearson wrote:One of the problems John, and I mean no disrespect to the H&S profession by saying this, is rather easy to explain. Not many people in the H&S game understand the difference between a 'Domestic Electrical Installer' and an fully qualified electrician with testing and design qualifications let alone an 'Electrical Engineer'. And from what I see in here on a regular basis, very little understanding of in-services electrical inspection of appliances (PAT if you like) Robert Pearson wrote:
Please write down the differences in this forum then and pass your knowledge and expertise onto others. They will then know the difference and the workplaces will be safer and you will have less confrontations. A win all round!
Thanks and regards
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westonphil: We do this sir, on an almost constant basis. I refer to myself and Paul Skyrme. Please read above and on other electrical posting on this very forum.
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Robert Pearson wrote:westonphil: We do this sir, on an almost constant basis. I refer to myself and Paul Skyrme. Please read above and on other electrical posting on this very forum.
Thank you Robert, let's hope those who do not know the differences take note and learn from your expertise and experience.
Regards
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