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Hi folks,
I've inherited a set of site welfare cabins fitted out in various configurations. In many, the toilet cubicles in particular are small (the door pretty much bangs against your legs if you sit down!).
I want to give our plant guys guidance on acceptable sizes, so that whether we refurbish or hire, it's clear to them what is acceptable.
Having done some research and measuring, I'm leaning towards a 1500mm cubicle, but would appreciate advice on this, as some of our existing cabins are too small to accommodate this size. I'd be comfortable using anything over 1300mm, but want to make sure what we settle on is "suitable" as far as external expectations go.
I'm aware of the dimensions in Building Regs Part M, which are commonly referred to. My issue is for construction sites, and I'm in Scotland if that makes a difference.
Thanks a million for any help - lots of info available about how many to provide, but not so much on what they must look like.
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In the absence of specific legislative sizes use Building Regs / BSI. This is what the HSE expect. if this is not forthcoming then any industry's own guidance is acceptable.
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Yep, "suitability" is exactly what I'm investigating.
1500mm comes from Building Standards (Scottish equivalent of the Regs - with the proviso that this isn't something I'm familiar with, just having researched this topic), or at least that's roughly the resulting figure with the mandated 450mm area clear of door swing, but that's larger than in many sites I've been on, so I'm really asking what others use, and how they came to that decision.
1500mm would mean a significantly larger cost to us than, say 1300mm (which 'feels' ok) as it could not be accommodated by refurbishment.
Much appreciated, thanks!
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Funny how office-bound people think that a person clothed in waterproofs/boots/gloves etc, can manage in the same space as them....
I suspect you will find that a nice quiet space on site may be being used as an ad-hoc toilet !!
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where possible go for the biggest that U can get as B-Standards / Building regs HSE guides etc. are only suitable for certain situations e.g. they do not account for weather, PPE , dirt, size of user, location, environment etc. and U need to have an idea of just how big your users are 'likely' to be e.g. one job I was on the only way some of the guys could use the toilets was to use the disabled toilets as the group consisted of 20 men the shortest [after me] of which was over 6 ft and large! additionally another job i was on [BBC work] consisted mainly of people that were all under 5ft! so two sets of loo's were needed
use the risk assessment process as well as other areas to present your case noting that those office bods who issue budgets for such things have no idea what happens on site in most cases but they all have warm, clean and cushy toilets readily to hand for themselves
in the 1960's U used to go into a corner and pee as there was little option nor welfare on small jobs especially and ~50 years later U are having to do the same - this makes me feel ashamed
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Just wanted to say thanks to all who replied. It's very useful to ask these off-the-wall questions here.
I've decided to go with 1500mm for all newly hired / purchased units, but also to allow for a finite period some of the existing units to be refurbished to give a cubicle space of at least 1300mm while replacements are financed. Any below are to be removed from site immediately.
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