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SP900308  
#1 Posted : 29 April 2015 10:13:55(UTC)
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SP900308

Good morning all, I haven't posted for a long while but felt the need to seek advice from my colleagues regarding temporary edge protection systems that are adjustable? The scenario is simple to visualise: Whilst installing passenger / goods lift cars in buildings, the structure of the lift car (sling) is built from the bottom of the lift well (lift pit). The lift sling is often used as a working platform to construct other elements of the works (door frames, shaft lighting etc.). Often, in this temporary state voids are present around the working platform which require protection. Note: The working platform is also operational and, following thorough examination will be used as a moving and static working platform to access each floor level (still in a temporary state). Therefore, for collective fall protection, I am trying to find a product that is versatile and adaptable enough to use in this environment. E.g. lift cars vary in size (6 person - 20 person) so I want a product that can be easily adjusted to suit. In addition, fixing of the edge protection to the sling is another consideration. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Kind regards Simon Priest
SP900308  
#2 Posted : 07 May 2015 08:13:58(UTC)
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SP900308

Good morning all, I thought I'd float this back up to the surface as over 100 views and no feedback. A more challenging question than I first thought. However, there most be a bit of kit out there that will do the job. I'll also give the trade association a try. Kind regards Simon
Alfasev  
#3 Posted : 08 May 2015 12:25:26(UTC)
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Alfasev

This is a classic case of poor safety by design. The manufactures should have provided an edge protection system. Unfortunately I don’t know of any kit out there apart from the usual suspects.
alistair.r.reid  
#4 Posted : 09 May 2015 15:01:28(UTC)
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alistair.r.reid

Simon When the lift installation is complete the lift car top is a work platform for inspection and maintenance personnel throughout the life of the lift. It is now part of the build standard that where the gaps between the lift car and the shaft walls exceed 300 mm the barriers are fitted to the car to, where the gaps are less than 300 mm this is acceptable. This is now also considered when accessing existing installations and recommendations to fit car top handrails are made. Assuming that the car has been built in the sling then having the handrails fitted (where required)during the installation phase would satisfy your requirement. Regards Alistair
SP900308  
#5 Posted : 13 May 2015 14:24:06(UTC)
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SP900308

Guys, thanks for the feedback! Alistair, I appreciate what you are saying as per LEIA Safety Info Sheet etc. The problem I face is that often the sling is built and used as a working platform without the car sides in place. This makes it easy for the Engineers to access all areas within the well. The permanent edge protection could be instated at this stage, but a system that could be used to temporarily provide edge protection and adjustable to suit different working platform (sling) footprints would be great. Maybe we need to fabricate a system ourselves? Any advice or ideas greatly appreciated. Simon
RayRapp  
#6 Posted : 13 May 2015 14:29:26(UTC)
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RayRapp

SP This is a specialist industry and it is clear from the lack of responses that many practitioners like myself have no knowledge of lifts. Companies such as Schindler and Otis may be able to provide a better insight. If push came to shove I could contact a friend who is an operation's director in one of the aforementioned companies. Ray
SP900308  
#7 Posted : 13 May 2015 15:35:02(UTC)
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SP900308

Good afternoon Ray, I appreciate your offer but I myself will get in touch with LEIA (trade association) and ask the question. As said, we may look at fabricating a system? Yes, lifts are specialist but there are many edge protection solutions out there. Something similar to that you'd find on a mezzanine roof with retractable handrails (trombone springs to mind) to provide loading would possibly work in this scenario? I'll keep looking! Simon
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